Scoffing too much meat and eggs is ‘just as bad as smoking’, claim scientists

[Greebo]

Is it ok to use cow manure as fertilizer? It's an animal byproduct. Silk is an animal byproduct.

In the first case, probably yes, as long as you're not rearing cattle to get the manure.

Silk, except for matka silk (which is only ever taken from empty cocoons) is probably one of the least okay of animal byproducts because you have to boil the pupae alive to produce it. OTOH it's more ecologically sustainable than using petrochemicals to make a substitute which isn't even as thermally efficient, light, or durable.

A lot of the time, the choice is between resources from plants and animals which are alive now (and still just about replaceable) and those which died and rotted centuries ago and which take a lot longer to replace than the rate at which they're used.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

I actually "get" the bee thing We're going to regret our bee labour expropriation at some point, if not already. Oh, and eggs are chicken periods.

They are indeed chicken periods and they taste delicious scrambled with mushrooms and toast

 

[littlebabyjesus]

They are indeed chicken periods and they taste delicious scrambled with mushrooms and toast

Fungus penises and wheat (endo)sperm.

 

[Spymaster]

Silk, except for matka silk (which is only ever taken from empty cocoons) is probably one of the least okay of animal byproducts because you have to boil the pupae alive to produce it. OTOH it's more ecologically sustainable than using petrochemicals to make a substitute which isn't even as thermally efficient, light, or durable.

Didn't know that.

Cheers.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Fungus penises and wheat (endo)sperm.

Mmmmmmmm! Delicious. I think I need to get lunch on

 

[ddraig]

why the need for the grin DC?

ahhh non vegans arguing about how hypocritcal or not vegans are, there MUST be something they do, i demand to know their flaw, we must expose them!
obviously a few sensible posts since.
JC, you are wrong, again

am about to leave for work trip and may not be able to get on here til late tomorrow or sat so carry on and i look forward with joy to seeing the brilliant 'arguments' when i get back

 

[littlebabyjesus]

why the need for the grin DC?

ahhh non vegans arguing about how hypocritcal or not vegans are, there MUST be something they do, i demand to know their flaw, we must expose them!
obviously a few sensible posts since.
JC, you are wrong, again

am about to leave for work trip and may not be able to get on here til late tomorrow or sat so carry on and i look forward with joy to seeing the brilliant 'arguments' when i get back

What was the emotive phrase you used for meat? 'Decomposing animal flesh'? Something like that. You started this particular game.

 

[ddraig]

What was the emotive phrase you used for meat? 'Decomposing animal flesh'? Something like that. You started this particular game.

is meat decomposing animal flesh? yes or no answer

 

[Spymaster]

am about to leave for work trip and may not be able to get on here til late tomorrow or sat ....

You take your time, Thraigo. As long as you like.

 

[cesare]

Everything we eat is decomposing, surely.

 

[ddraig]

yes it is

 

[ddraig]

You take your time, Thraigo. As long as you like.

why are you being a dick like fwances and messing with my user name?
please don't, ta

 

[littlebabyjesus]

is meat decomposing animal flesh? yes or no answer

Luckily for life on Earth, all animal and plant matter decomposes, so why bring it up?

Except honey, which can last for thousands of years. Honey is superfood.

 

[cesare]

If "decomposing" can be applied to everything we eat, we can just take it as a given and don't need to insert it for emphasis.

 

[ddraig]

Luckily for life on Earth, all animal and plant matter decomposes, so why bring it up?

Except honey, which can last for thousands of years. Honey is superfood.

because you made a point about it and called it emotive language
simple question
are you in training to be a politician?

 

[Spymaster]

Much meat is improved by an element of decomposition.

That said, Thraigo was using the term emotively as per "murder" of animals etc,.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

because you made a point about it and called it emotive language
simple question
are you in training to be a politician?

No, you brought it up, repeatedly, earlier in this thread. You. Brought. It. Up.

 

[ddraig]

If "decomposing" can be applied to everything we eat, we can just take it as a given and don't need to insert it for emphasis.

so decomposing flesh isn't worse than decomposing veg and fruit then?

 

[cesare]

so decomposing flesh isn't worse than decomposing veg and fruit then?

It depends on your point of view.

edit: The bag of slimy rotting coriander that I found yesterday was much more decomposed and inedible than the relatively fresh chicken breasts. Ethical arguments to one side.

Sorry Greebo I edited that after you liked it

 

[ddraig]

No, you brought it up, repeatedly, earlier in this thread. You. Brought. It. Up.

oh ffs
yes i did, you made a point and i challenged your point that is all
frustrating poster is frustrating!

 

[ddraig]

Much meat is improved by an element of decomposition.

That said, Thraigo was using the term emotively as per "murder" of animals etc,.

are you constantly in the playground cunty?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

oh ffs
yes i did, you made a point and i challenged your point that is all
frustrating poster is frustrating!

Stop ffsing me.

You started this game by using emotive language. People are now (gently) taking the piss out of such characterisations.

 

[ddraig]

no ffs, you are difficult and yet again this is pointless!

 

[Spymaster]

Stop ffsing me.

That made me lol!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Point out where people have been attacking vegans, please?

And perhaps you'd like to point out where I've attacked your eating habits, or even implied such an attack.

You're all over the place.

 

[ddraig]

bit close to fisting innit

 

[cesare]

I think I might have attacked vegetarians (in a wishy washy sort of way) but I definitely didn't diss vegans.

 

[Spymaster]

Only meat eaters have been seriously attacked on this thread and they have generally responded rationally and in good spirit.

Someone (no names mentioned), has spectacularly (intentionally?) misread many of the posts here and gone out of their way to take (and give) offence!

 

[cesare]

I definitely attacked the non-meateating vegetarians tbf

 

[Spymaster]

I definitely attacked the non-meateating vegetarians tbf

They deserved it.