Spymaster
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I'm afraid I won't be able to address anymore points or questions on this thread - its diverted far too much of my time already! It's been interesting though... I could discuss this one forever!
Some interesting posts.
I'm afraid I won't be able to address anymore points or questions on this thread - its diverted far too much of my time already! It's been interesting though... I could discuss this one forever!
Well yes, there was a whole "ecosystem" of ideas that eating less meat was a part of.Not quite accurate. He also believed that a strong volk was a product of a strong agrarian peasant culture. In Germany at that time (and in the preceding century) that meant a lot more grain farming and horticulture than large-scale livestock production.
because you say so sonny?It's nothing to do with 'rights'.
yes that is why i added those caveats very early on and believe i repeated themUnfortunately, under present capitalism, for some people (particularly poor urban-dwellers), a diet with no recourse to animal protein is unaffordable, and for some of us, also medically-unadvisable. Back in the day, we poor folks used to keep chickens, or a communal piggy. Nowadays, cheap meaty supermarket pabulum has taken its' place.
"I'd have let it slide"! charly bog potatoes mod madDon't be an even bigger bellend.
I'd have let it slide if you were just mildly opposed to meat production, or just didn't care to think about it. But the fervour with which you've argued against meat, followed by the revelation that you're a meat-muncher yourself makes you something of an unprincipled wanker in my book.
no, they have been arguing a point, just because you don't agree with or able to get your head around it it does not mean it is projectionI think some measure of projection has leaked into your arguments, though. Others are not as conflicted about eating meat as you appear to be.
charly bog potatoes mod mad
you have no idea which bit I'm referring to, do you? More than once, herbz referred to people wilfully distancing themselves from the reality of meat production to ease their consciences. He addressed that to, among others, me and spymaster, two posters who have said that we have killed animals and ate them and had no problem doing so.no, they have been arguing a point, just because you don't agree with or able to get your head around it it does not mean it is projection
The only poster whose criticism has even been coherent is Jeff r.
no no NO! you have to have as much MEAT as possible to make you NORMAL!!
you have no idea which bit I'm referring to, do you? More than once, herbz referred to people wilfully distancing themselves from the reality of meat production to ease their consciences. He addressed that to, among others, me and spymaster, two posters who have said that we have killed animals and ate them and had no problem doing so.
ddraig at least has the virtue of honestly believing the stuff he's coming out with. You? You're just boring.I'm sorry, I forget where I addressed that to you. Could you point out on the thread where the bad man touched you, so I know what context it was in and how to avoid it next time?
Playing devil's advocate on here is an arrogant thing to do.
Dr_Herbz said:I believe that it's wrong to kill something simply because we prefer the taste ...
Dr_Herbz said:I believe that any self-aware organism has a right to life ....
Playing devil's advocate on here is an arrogant thing to do.
Playing devil's advocate on here is an arrogant thing to do. You're simply not that clever or interesting.
There is a reason why people generally ask permission to do so. 'May I play devil's advocate for a moment' is the kind of thing people say. It is asking people to indulge you. It's the polite thing to do.
Whining isn't a good look for trolls, though. The likes of dwyer at least recognise that.I don't see what the issue is with it, even is he was.
Whining isn't a good look for trolls, though. The likes of dwyer at least recognise that.
So is this the truth or is the post where you said you were playing devil's advocate the truth?I was neither playing devil's advocate, nor am I confused. .
Just to add this thread.
Dr Joy, a leading advocate of treating (all) animals with respect.
I don't think playing devil's advocate is trolling in itself. Maybe if you've chosen anti-semitism or something as your topic, but it was a debate with two opposing views and neither is one I think most would find offensive. Plus, he could just be a bit conflicted. I think I'm a bit conflicted about eating meat, at least when it comes to mammals.
So is this the truth or is the post where you said you were playing devil's advocate the truth?
I'll stop poking the troll now. Should have done so a while ago.
I also smoke cigarrettes, although I know they are bad for me and I believe the sale of tobacco products should be banned.*
Could you point out where I stated I was playing devil's advocate? Not where you thought I said it but where I actually said it?
Then why mention your tag?
It's what you meant and you know it. You disingenuous scrote.
Then why mention your tag?
It's what you meant and you know it. You disingenuous scrote.
I mentioned tags so I could point out that you are indeed a Cockney Wanker... simples.
... come up with anything constructive to add to the debate
Of course you did.
This backpedaling is fooling nobody.
Ah, you didn't totally flunk troll school, then. Get caught, so deflect, move the focus away from your fuck-up.
It never works, you know. To think that it might is to show a disdainful disregard for other posters' abilities.