I see Sisters Uncut have featured heavily here. Have they come full circle from attacking alleged abusers of women to become abusers of women?
[Sat 28th Oct 2017] London Anarchist Bookfair (London)
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Given that Butchers said (IIRC) Merseyside AF translates to a couple of people in the Liverpool group and 5 across Scotland...unless I have that/this wrong...there’s more on this board representative of pissed off anarchists.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
And, at the risk of further opprobrium, what’s the more important? People with some analysis of power dynamics at their point of entry to anarchism or this individualism? (That leads to “I wanna fuck up some terfs”)
Fuck it.
Fuck it.
And whilst I understand the pragmatics, it remains that the quarrel is about a parliamentary law.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Richard Seymour wades in, pointlessly:
Anarchist Bookfair | Richard Seymour on Patreon
Anarchist Bookfair | Richard Seymour on Patreon
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Why? What’s it got to do with him?
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
I guess he needs to keep his patreon patrons happy with #content that shows he is an authority on all the things.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Remember when people used to do things for free? This has turned into a sort of collective sugar daddy thing. People asking for money for talking to their mates for an hour.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Yes. Probably one for the commentariat thread...
ska invita
back on the other side
not sure if pointless...i agree completely with the spirit of that and this is where the conversation needs to go: A recognition of the fragility of left organising, some self reflection as to how to act when disagreements arise, some perspective on what is at stake etc. He even picked up that all the claims of racism, imperialistic culture etc had zero evidence,(the banner no doubt) also useful.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
They have a history.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
"Can we all please calm it down a bit", say insurrectionists:
‘The loneliness of the crowd’ – Another reflection on the events at this year’s London Anarchist Bookfair (UK)
‘The loneliness of the crowd’ – Another reflection on the events at this year’s London Anarchist Bookfair (UK)
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
I thought that was quite a good statement but I thought this sentence seemed a bit oddly placed and didn't really understand why it was included.
"After the 2015 London Anarchist Bookfair, attendees directed their antagonism towards a state target, with a protest at Eurostar for its role in the border politics in Calais and the imprisonment of migrants who had walked through the Channel Tunnel."
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
rather a comparison with this year's clusterfuck
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
I think they're saying that anarchist energies should be put into that sort of thing and not shouting at Helen Steel or throwing hissy fits on twitter.
Athos
Well-Known Member
Are they trying to make the comparison between legitimate and illegitimate targets?
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Ah ok. That makes a bit more sense to me now.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Only just spotted that Hydra Books is a signatory to the open letter 
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Only just spotted that Hydra Books is a signatory to the open letter
I'm surprised at who did. Including some people who I'd have thought would have a better position.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Only just spotted that Hydra Books is a signatory to the open letter
Also Salvage Collective, who are Richard Seymour's lot, no? I think a bunch of people signed up in the last week or so.
The Flying Pig
Well-Known Member
Depends what day it is, how much they have had to drink mixed with a cock tail of whatever and then they go off on an escapade. Nthing plannedno responsibility, just go and do whatever you feel. Rich kids exerting their privilege.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I never read them like that. They have done some well planned and properly organised stuff.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Or at least waited to check the facts
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
this!
someone involved in something i help with suggested adding the name of the org to it and i objected on those grounds and that no one from it was there!
editor
hiraethified
Trolling. Never a good idea when there's a grown up debate going on.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Brighton ABC statement from their Facebook page (sorry don't have link)...
"Despite the threat of the loss of an event that has provided the single greatest opportunity for our fundraising activities for our prisoner support work over the past two decades, Brighton Anarchist Black Cross fully supports the stance of the London Anarchist Bookfair Collective in the face of a torrent of unfair and largely misplaced criticism. If people have chosen to continue to passively 'consume' the Bookfair each year whilst failing to actively engage in the creation of this event, then they have only themselves to blame when their snipping from the sidelines about their poor 'consumer experience' results in the Bookfair Collective calling it a day.
This is going to directly impact on our prisoner support work. We are a very small group, which nevertheless often provides quite significant material aid for comrades behind the bars. The fact that there is not going to be an Anarchist Bookfair next year in London is going to very severely impact our abilities to offer further support to anarchist and other political prisoners (including trans prisoners) and hinder our work on other anti-prison projects, such as printing literature, etc. We hope that the signatories of the open letter are fully aware of the real consequences their actions are already having on groups like ours."
ABC - News
"Despite the threat of the loss of an event that has provided the single greatest opportunity for our fundraising activities for our prisoner support work over the past two decades, Brighton Anarchist Black Cross fully supports the stance of the London Anarchist Bookfair Collective in the face of a torrent of unfair and largely misplaced criticism. If people have chosen to continue to passively 'consume' the Bookfair each year whilst failing to actively engage in the creation of this event, then they have only themselves to blame when their snipping from the sidelines about their poor 'consumer experience' results in the Bookfair Collective calling it a day.
This is going to directly impact on our prisoner support work. We are a very small group, which nevertheless often provides quite significant material aid for comrades behind the bars. The fact that there is not going to be an Anarchist Bookfair next year in London is going to very severely impact our abilities to offer further support to anarchist and other political prisoners (including trans prisoners) and hinder our work on other anti-prison projects, such as printing literature, etc. We hope that the signatories of the open letter are fully aware of the real consequences their actions are already having on groups like ours."
ABC - News
ska invita
back on the other side
freedom statement
Freedom Collective Statement on the London Anarchist Bookfair
Freedom Collective Statement on the London Anarchist Bookfair
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