Russell Brand: rape and sexual abuse allegations, grifting and general dodginess - discussion

[Clair De Lune]

As if Russel Brand believes in a higher power than himself. He wants people to believe he is both innocent and repentant.

 

[kabbes]

So it's OK if she lives round the corner?

We can only read what’s there, man.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Love your neighbor as yourself? Problematic?

That's not limited to christianity.

But christianity is the only one that has a god who is his own father, and prays to himself, who sacrifices his son so that people who believe in him don't burn in hellfire that he created for eternity. Love me and my psychopathic ways or I'll punish you for ever!

 

[Jimmy Don't]

If people want to believe in sky pixies or fairies at the bottom of the garden, then as long as they're on our side of the barricades when it comes to the crunch ("the crunch" being international proletarian revolution) then I don't give a fuck.

I'm afraid people who pretend to believe in creationism for smaller class sizes may not be shoulder to shoulder with you come the crunch my friend

 

[Jimmy Don't]

. DP by accident

 

[brogdale]

That's not limited to christianity.

But christianity is the only one that has a god who is his own father, and prays to himself, who sacrifices his son so that people who believe in him don't burn in hellfire that he created for eternity. Love me and my psychopathic ways or I'll punish you for ever!

The Xians tell us that their 'God' loves us all until that moment when, if we don't accept/worship HIM etc. HE doesn't love us anymore; in fact HE hates us so much that we're cast into eternal damnation. Fickle or what?

 

[Pickman's model]

The Xians tell us that their 'God' loves us all until that moment when, if we don't accept/worship HIM etc. HE doesn't love us anymore; in fact HE hates us so much that we're cast into eternal damnation. Fickle or what?

Other deities are available

 

[kabbes]

Love your neighbor as yourself? Problematic?

That love doesn’t extend to fig trees, of course

Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts

12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.

…

19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples went out of the city.

20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”

Fuck that piece-of-shit fig tree

 

[nogojones]

I'm afraid people who pretend to believe in creationism for smaller class sizes may not be shoulder to shoulder with you come the crunch my friend

Catholics tend not to be creationists these days. They even grudgingly accept Galileo may have something going on.

 

[nogojones]

Love your neighbor as yourself? Problematic?

If you could see the way I sometimes "love myself", then yes, it could quite probably be seen as problematic if I started on the neighbours.

 

[Wilf]

That love doesn’t extend to fig trees, of course


Fuck that piece-of-shit fig tree

To be fair, figs are shit.

 

[Jimmy Don't]

Catholics tend not to be creationists these days. They even grudgingly accept Galileo may have something going on.

All of them I know are just in for the schools. It's nuts anyone could genuinely believe, but there is a stranglehold to break. Who knows what happens when it stops,,,

 

[kabbes]

To be fair, figs are shit.

Only figs in this country that you get from packets. Figs fresh off the tree are amazing. But not that tree, because Jesu got all petulant about it being out of season.

 

[cesare]

Trad default CofEs are quite brave about joking about Christianity but not so much re."joking" about Jewish or Islam faiths.

 

[two sheds]

To be fair, figs are shit.

As are pigs if they're innocently feeding on the side of a mountain

 

[kabbes]

To be fair, if I had superpowers, I’d wither a few trees too. The fucking annoying chestnut in my neighbour’s garden, for a start.

 

[Wilf]

As are pigs if they're innocently feeding on the side of a mountain

Aye, poor piggies, just having their tea and they got embroiled in all that unpleasantness.

 

[Wilf]

To be fair, if I had superpowers, I’d wither a few trees too. The fucking annoying chestnut in my neighbour’s garden, for a start.

The tree leylandii of good and evil.

 

[story]

That love doesn’t extend to fig trees, of course


Fuck that piece-of-shit fig tree

It was the same day he got pissed off at the money lenders in the temple and threw a bit of tantrum.
Just one of those days when everything rubs you up the wrong way.

 

[Orang Utan]

Trad default CofEs are quite brave about joking about Christianity but not so much re."joking" about Jewish or Islam faiths.

That’s because criticising one’s own culture is deemed more acceptable than criticising others

 

[cesare]

That’s because criticising one’s own culture is deemed more acceptable than criticising others

Deemed by who?

 

[Orang Utan]

Deemed by who?

General consensus.

 

[Humberto]

The Xians tell us that their 'God' loves us all until that moment when, if we don't accept/worship HIM etc. HE doesn't love us anymore; in fact HE hates us so much that we're cast into eternal damnation. Fickle or what?

The offer's there. Even if you're a bad 'un.

 

[Wilf]

That’s because criticising one’s own culture is deemed more acceptable than criticising others

Well, that's a bold statement...

 

[planetgeli]

General consensus.

Can you be a bit more vague?

 

[cesare]

General consensus.

I'd be more convinced by your "joking" if you extended it to all the Abrahamic faiths not just some of the Christians that are unlikely to find your joking unfunny. TBF it wasn't even funny, it was more like Ricky Gervais without the humour.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

To be fair, figs are shit.

may you rot in heaven

 

[Pickman's model]

Well, that's a bold statement...

it would be if it meant anything.

 

[Orang Utan]

I'd be more convinced by your "joking" if you extended it to all the Abrahamic faiths not just some of the Christians that are unlikely to find your joking unfunny. TBF it wasn't even funny, it was more like Ricky Gervais without the humour.

all this just for one quip! I can’t pretend that I understand what the fuss is about tbh

 

[burtabraham]

The Xians tell us that their 'God' loves us all until that moment when, if we don't accept/worship HIM etc. HE doesn't love us anymore; in fact HE hates us so much that we're cast into eternal damnation. Fickle or what?

That's a Calvinist distortion of what Christianity teaches. The Orthodox faith teaches that heaven and hell are about the inner state of the individual. According to this older tradition, we all end up in the company of God, but those who love God will experience that company as heaven, and those that hate God will experience it as hell.