What does a baby killer look like?
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This apparently. She doesn't seem like a baby killer to me. However, apparently she was. As
proven by a trial.
By saying he doesn't seem the violent type I'm not categorically stating he isn't. Just commenting on appearances.
Does this guy look like a violent rapist?
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For 17 years people thought yes.
All I said in my post that I'm saving my judgement until the allegations are proven.
Then speculated that he might be a wrong un though. Just speculation though.
I'm surprised at the lynch mob mentality being shown by Urban. If this was the wild west Brand would already be hanging dead from a tree strung up by you lot.
You’ve swerved the issue. Again.
Or you’ve misunderstood.
Or you’re pretending to misunderstand.
You’re not being castigated for saying Brand may not be guilty of rape.
Everyone here knows Brand may not be guilty of rape and sexual assault (although it looks likely that he could be).
This thread is now having a look at the chatter around RB and evaluating it in the light of these allegations.
You’re not being told to fuck off because of what you said about RB..
You're being told to fuck off because of what you said about rape.
The reason you’re being taken to task is because of what you wrote, what you said. You, not RB. The things you’ve said that indicate your own attitude and opinions and feelings about rape and rape culture.
Rape is rape.
It’s not a scale from 1 to rape with “yeah well, she didn’t say no/she was drunk/... etc” somewhere between 1 and rape.
If you don’t know this then you are part of the problem. You, as well as RB.
Because even if RB is not guilty of actual rape and sexual assault he is certainly part of the problem of rape culture.
The reason
Gromit that you are being told to fuck off is because you repeatedly demonstrate that you are contributing to the problem of rape culture.
Go away and think about this. Go away and talk to people, ask questions and listen to women without interrupting, read some books, look at some videos. Start from the position of assuming you’re wrong, that you’re getting it wrong, that you’re at fault. Even if you don’t believe that, just imagine it, like a thought experiment.
You really do need to have a bit of a think about this. You’re consistently pulled up by this community, a community you choose to be a part of. The reason you get told to fuck off when you say this shit isn’t because (in this instance) your opinion about RB is different to that of others, it is because your gender politics is absolutely categorically and completely at odds with those of the community.
