seeformiles
Lost in the wood
I feel somewhat pointlessly pleased that I always thought he was an unfunny prick. No surprise now he’s a wrong ‘un.
Russell Brand: rape and sexual abuse allegations, grifting and general dodginess - discussion
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I called him a made for TV wanker. All my other posts on Brand threads have related to the power of the industry and why it encourages and produces and protects Russell Brands. The whole culture of stardom is flawed. It is not good to have everyone say yes to you all the time.
To paraphrase all my other posts. Everyone you see on TV is a cunt.
I wasn't here in 2013. But that's irrelevant.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Go on, which thread?
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Brand did, though. When I first saw him on telly, whenever that was, he was already boasting of the hundreds of women he'd shagged. He actually kept count, whether accurately or not. Just that fact marked him out as perverse. Every woman was a sexual conquest, another notch on his todger, so to speak. OK, other men do that as well, or talk the talk, but the sheer scale of his supposed exploits was a warning that he cared nothing about them whatsoever.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
Still on Netflix
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I agree with this but wonder why that seems to be exactly what you and LDC are doing.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Link please
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
But besides that...you read the quoted post yes? My words. You didn't get the idea from what I said as to what bimble was going on about?
bimble
floofy
Underlying assumptions in there. Plenty women might have been well aware of all that and had no problem with it, still gladly had a meaningless encounter with him, not expecting to be 'cared for' as you put it at all. But the accusations are not about that , he's not being pulled up for too many 1 night stands he is accused of rape and abuse. Shagging around isnt the issue that's buying into his version, as already said by others.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
What are you convinced of here? You're being really weird.
bimble
floofy
please drop this weird thing? Nobody is slagging off urban, we're all still here.
Humberto
talk to the hand
There's a video in this article of Brand on American morning television from 2013. He seems to enjoy undermining the confidence of and humiliating the woman presenter. Aggressive like.
www.theguardian.com
*(rather than link to one of his YouTube fans describing how he 'owned her')
If only Russell Brand could use his cleverness for more than humiliation | Sarah Ditum
Sarah Ditum: The star's car-crash interview on MSNBC's Morning Joe showcased his talents – and his penchant for lazy sexism
*(rather than link to one of his YouTube fans describing how he 'owned her')
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I'm not sure what you're getting at with "he's a totally different character now" than in 2013 or 2003. What, reformed? Worse? How is he a totally different character now than he was at the times the alleged incidents occurred?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
You are the one being weird. Bimble and LDC are asserting that old style urban was horrendous/rapey and you're agreeing with them . If any of you can link to something specific to support what you're saying, please do. There seems to be a thread that Bimble's referring to and that you know about. Let's see it please.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
We'd be better off if the otherside urbs were still with us
bimble
floofy
for the sake of fuck drop it please. Or sober up and read the links provided.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
From following their quotes back it appears to be this one (not read it yet)..
Hundreds of women assaulted in German NYE celebrations
just another coat of kiwi buffed up and he's ready to roll
www.urban75.net
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
A pound shop Jimmy Saville. A Rolf Harris who can't draw.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Sigh. You've misunderstood something bimble meant - which wasn't referring to rapey but certainly to misogyny - of Urban past, a thread that I was very new to here too, and she was remarking how things have improved.
Here's the thread.
Hundreds of women assaulted in German NYE celebrations
just another coat of kiwi buffed up and he's ready to roll
www.urban75.net
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
What makes you think cesare is one over the eight? She seems entirely sober to me.
bimble
floofy
yes, it was a thread about hundreds of women reporting to the police that they had been sexually assaulted, and the experience of posting on that thread was that most people engaging with it at the time were inclined to believe, for righteous reasons, that those reports were lies. And it was horrible, posting on that thread. It was really bad. And I dont think that would have gone the same way now. I think it would be less bad.
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LDC
On est tous des pangolins
No, I'm not. I said some threads had some shit attitudes on that seem not so common now. Honestly you're going on and on about something I haven't said.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Thanks for the linkFrom following their quotes back it appears to be this one (not read it yet)..
Hundreds of women assaulted in German NYE celebrations
just another coat of kiwi buffed up and he's ready to roll
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Which is all valid re the wider society but I'm failing to see how it applies to how old skool urban reacted to Russell Brand at the time
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