The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Forensic due process and costed
Rochdale by-election
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Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
odds on, according to skybet
if it wasn't against all my principles, i'd almost be tempted to stick a fiver on the tory at 100-1
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I am thoroughly dubious about that, the local party members detested him more than the electorate did.
If they're sensible, the CLP will throw their weight behind the MRLP.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
and starmer will probably advise people to vote tory...
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Seems odd to me as well , especially as voting or supporting a candidate from another party is a disciplinary offence, isn't it? I wonder why the Guardian put that in?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I think it's okay if there is no Labour candidate. Not okay enough you'd want to put your actual name to such a comment, though.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
“Vote for a sex pest to keep out a permanently raging Stalinist grifter who ten days ago couldn’t find Rochdale on a map”.
Not the worst summation of where British politics has got to in 2024.
Not the worst summation of where British politics has got to in 2024.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The 'it was completely out of character and he's apologised so lets move on' is so yesterday
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Most odd, John McTernan is usually well known for his sharp insight and anti-factional commentary.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
that's what i was thinking.
i don't have a set of labour party rules handy, though...
PTK
Paul Kegan
I am sure that you are not allowed to publicly promote another party.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
What will tomorrow's line be on this? 'This shows how serious Keir Starmer is about rooting out... how he puts what is right before party interest....'. Some poor sod is going to have to do the rounds parroting this shit. Though of course anyone willing to parrot Starmer on anything is a fucking spineless grub. In fact biologists have now shifted Labour from the mammals group to the invertebrates. What absolute fucking scum they are.
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
These absolute grifters wheeled out their 'finest' last night to try and defend him and now they have backtracked and are getting absolutely roasted. There is a massive schism developing between the pro Israel pressure groups and Starmer's team and we all know how that ends.
PTK
Paul Kegan
The Labour Candidate in Rochdale, Azhar Ali, wrote: "I apologise unreservedly to the Jewish community for my comments which were deeply offensive, ignorant, and false.”
Now, according to the guidelines on the definition of antisemitism adopted by the Labour Party, it is antisemitic to hold Jews “collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel”.
In apologising to the local Jewish community, Ali is saying that an unfounded criticism of the actions of the State of Israel is also an unfounded criticism of the local Jewish community. Ali is in effect holding them responsible for the actions of the State of Israel. Ali’s apology, which is approved by the Leadership of the Labour Party and others, is, according to the Labour Party guidelines, antisemitic.
Now, according to the guidelines on the definition of antisemitism adopted by the Labour Party, it is antisemitic to hold Jews “collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel”.
In apologising to the local Jewish community, Ali is saying that an unfounded criticism of the actions of the State of Israel is also an unfounded criticism of the local Jewish community. Ali is in effect holding them responsible for the actions of the State of Israel. Ali’s apology, which is approved by the Leadership of the Labour Party and others, is, according to the Labour Party guidelines, antisemitic.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Eleven candidates. No women. There are more men called Howarth on the ballot than there are women.
Rochdale by-election: all the candidates standing to be next MP
Eleven people have put themselves forward to be the tow's next MP.
www.bbc.co.uk
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Howard’s 90s messaging on “Bogus asylum seekers” seems rather quaint in today’s toxic far right climate. Almost Liberal Democrat by today’s standards.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
For some reason Labour’s last panoramically competent appearance in Rochdale also sprung to mind this morning:
It’s like a football club who can never beat an opponent regardless of form. Rochdale appear to be Labour’s ‘bogey team’.
It’s like a football club who can never beat an opponent regardless of form. Rochdale appear to be Labour’s ‘bogey team’.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
The answer to the perennial question, ‘yes, but can Labour do it on a wet Tuesday night in Rochdale’ appears to be an emphatic ‘no’.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Poor Gordon being harangued by a bigot whilst strolling around town with a groomer.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Brendan behan should have said he couldn't conceive of a situation so dismal the Labour party couldn't make it worse
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
In the more recent case it's because in seeking power at any price they have lost themselves
not a trot
Well-Known Member
And that famous bigot comment cost Labour dearly amongst the working classes.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Back in the day Rochdale used to be Lincoln's bogey team so I'm glad they've moved on.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Have I got this right?
Someone who was at the Lancashire Labour meeting in October recorded the comments and the recording ended up at The Mail after the selection process had been concluded rather than being shared with the local or national Labour officials before the selection process. ?
Someone who was at the Lancashire Labour meeting in October recorded the comments and the recording ended up at The Mail after the selection process had been concluded rather than being shared with the local or national Labour officials before the selection process. ?
seems so.
factionalism is a hell of a drug.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Isn't Labour factionalism so much better than other parties' factionalism?
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