Rishi Sunak’s time is up!

[cupid_stunt]

Dunno about pissed, heard he was more of a coke man.
Pisstaking would probably depend on whether the subject of poor people came up.

Yes, as in coke cola.

 

[elbows]

From what I've seen of him he was there to write the theme tune, sing the theme tune.

 

[Cid]

I doubt it. He’s teetotal, practicing Hindu, very family oriented, and from what I’ve read quite principled. Even if you disagree with his politics. His Dad sounds like a legend.

I mean he's verifiably not remotely principled.

 

[Edie]

Dunno about pissed, heard he was more of a coke man.
Pisstaking would probably depend on whether the subject of poor people came up.

What do you think his view of ‘poor people’ is? His creation of furlough was certainly pretty strong evidence of support for people who could not work and of small business, of which he’s a massive supporter. What did he do as chancellor to make you say he’d take the piss out of ‘poor people’?

 

[Edie]

I mean he's verifiably not remotely principled.

Verify it for me?

 

[Edie]

I’m kinda just starting to get a feel for the guy. His family background is pretty impressive.

 

[blameless77]

A bunch of cunts.

A bunch of Brahmins

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I doubt it. He’s teetotal, practicing Hindu, very family oriented, and from what I’ve read quite principled. Even if you disagree with his politics. His Dad sounds like a legend.

He made millions doing his bit to crash the economy in 2008.

 

[8ball]

What do you think his view of ‘poor people’ is? His creation of furlough was certainly pretty strong evidence of support for people who could not work and of small business, of which he’s a massive supporter. What did he do as chancellor to make you say he’d take the piss out of ‘poor people’?

I think furlough was more of a Boris creation, much like the disastrous "borrow to cut taxes" plan was much more Truss than Kwarteng in origin.

As for his view of poor people...

Rishi Sunak admits taking money from deprived areas

Video shows candidate telling Tories in Tunbridge Wells he started making sure ‘areas like this are getting the funding they deserved’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Edie]

He made millions doing his bit to crash the economy in 2008.

In what way? Was he was working in a hedge fund at that time? How did he make millions whilst also having the power to crash the economy?

 

[Edie]

I think furlough was more of a Boris creation, much like the disastrous "borrow to cut taxes" plan was much more Truss than Kwarteng in origin.

As for his view of poor people...

Rishi Sunak admits taking money from deprived areas

Video shows candidate telling Tories in Tunbridge Wells he started making sure ‘areas like this are getting the funding they deserved’

www.theguardian.com

Don’t be daft, he was chancellor at that point. Whilst obviously they would have worked together, he’d have either made the decisions or had significant influence.

 

[Edie]

I think furlough was more of a Boris creation, much like the disastrous "borrow to cut taxes" plan was much more Truss than Kwarteng in origin.

As for his view of poor people...

Rishi Sunak admits taking money from deprived areas

Video shows candidate telling Tories in Tunbridge Wells he started making sure ‘areas like this are getting the funding they deserved’

www.theguardian.com

Re the clip- yes that doesn’t sound great, but I’d be very wary of judging him based on a 50s clip taken out of context on the Guardian

 

[elbows]

I think furlough was more of a Boris creation, much like the disastrous "borrow to cut taxes" plan was much more Truss than Kwarteng in origin.

Sunak tried to resist lockdowns on multiple occasions and the resulting delays cost lives. During the previous leadership campaign he started moaning about this and made his deadly pandemic attitudes perfectly clear.

Once lockdowns became unavoidable he had little choice but to offer economic support. And once that step had been taken, he of course wanted to make use of it to improve his reputation. He is still happy to do this, he wants to have his cake and eat it, as long as it isnt Johnsons birthday cake.

 

[Pickman's model]

I doubt it. He’s teetotal, practicing Hindu, very family oriented, and from what I’ve read quite principled. Even if you disagree with his politics. His Dad sounds like a legend.

It's the people who cultivate that ascetic reputation who are the worst behind closed doors

 

[Pickman's model]

Re the clip- yes that doesn’t sound great, but I’d be very wary of judging him based on a 50s clip taken out of context on the Guardian

Judging him in the round shows him to be more despicable than that 50s out of context guardian video

 

[Edie]

Sunak tried to resist lockdowns on multiple occasions and the resulting delays cost lives. During the previous leadership campaign he started moaning about this and made his deadly pandemic attitudes perfectly clear.

Once lockdowns became unavoidable he had little choice but to offer economic support. And once that step had been taken, he of course wanted to make use of it to improve his reputation. He is still happy to do this, he wants to have his cake and eat it, as long as it isnt Johnsons birthday cake.

His job at that point was literally to advocate about what was best for the economy. The lockdown decisions were an ‘impossible’ balance between people dying of covid, and people dying because the economy tanked. The Government had to balance that, and in my view (and god knows I hate Boris) did that pretty well.

 

[Pickman's model]

I mean he's verifiably not remotely principled.

Oh he has lots of principles. The principles of a mountebank

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Furlogh schemes were in place across Europe during lockdown mainly to keep the economy going. They didn't have much choice.

 

[8ball]

Sunak tried to resist lockdowns on multiple occasions and the resulting delays cost lives. During the previous leadership campaign he started moaning about this and made his deadly pandemic attitudes perfectly clear.

Once lockdowns became unavoidable he had little choice but to offer economic support. And once that step had been taken, he of course wanted to make use of it to improve his reputation. He is still happy to do this, he wants to have his cake and eat it, as long as it isnt Johnsons birthday cake.

And there have been a few efforts from him to smooth things over with the markets...

Experts had too much power over Covid lockdowns, says Rishi Sunak

The ex-chancellor says ministers were banned from talking about negative effects of restrictions.

www.bbc.com

 

[Edie]

It's the people who cultivate that ascetic reputation who are the worst behind closed doors

It’s not ascetic. It’s just basic human decency man. What do you think he’s hiding?

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s not ascetic. It’s just basic human decency man. What do you think he’s hiding?

All manner of sins

 

[elbows]

His job at that point was literally to advocate about what was best for the economy. The lockdown decisions were an ‘impossible’ balance between people dying of covid, and people dying because the economy tanked. The Government had to balance that, and in my view (and god knows I hate Boris) did that pretty well.

Its a false argument. Delaying lockdowns only ended up making them harsher and longer, increasing economic damage, decreasing peoples confidence in resuming economic activity. There are some studies about this which I dont have to hand at the moment.

This false argument will have other longer chapters too, as the effects of things like long covid on the economy (via reduced workforce) continue to form part of the picture of our current economic woe.

Eat out to help out was another disaster. Some of this stuff will come up again in the public inquiry, but the extent to which such revelations damage Sunak in office remains to be seen.

 

[Edie]

Furlogh schemes were in place across Europe during lockdown mainly to keep the economy going. They didn't have much choice.

So? He led ours. In an incredibly timely and effective way.

 

[Pickman's model]

So? He led ours. In an incredibly timely and effective way.

You're easily impressed by tory chancellors

 

[Edie]

All manner of sins

You’re just making stuff up which is embarrassing. Judge people on what they do or say, not this waffle.

 

[8ball]

So? He led ours. In an incredibly timely and effective way.

It's the suits, isn't it?

 

[Pickman's model]

You’re just making stuff up which is embarrassing. Judge people on what they do or say, not this waffle.

You asked me what I think he's hiding. I think he's hiding all manner of sins. That's my opinion, that's what you asked me. If we're going to judge you it'll be on things like your incredible faith in tory politicians

 

[Cid]

This is exactly why he stands a chance at beating Starmer though... Veneer of respectability, sober, family man, principled.

Short memories.

 

[Pickman's model]

This is exactly why he stands a chance at beating Starmer though... Veneer of respectability, sober, family man, principled.

Short memories.

A veneer. And what is beneath that polished exterior?

 

[Edie]

You asked me what I think he's hiding. I think he's hiding all manner of sins. That's my opinion, that's what you asked me. If we're going to judge you it'll be on things like your incredible faith in tory politicians

I’m embarrassed for you