A retake is the only way to change them. I am really annoyed that there is no appeal process, particularly because our subject has gone from a 'mandatory' subject last year to one of 'choice' this year. Results would have been much better but OFQUAL are basing them on historic data, so am worried some of our pupils won't get what they deserve.
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A retake is the only way to change them. I am really annoyed that there is no appeal process, particularly because our subject has gone from a 'mandatory' subject last year to one of 'choice' this year. Results would have been much better but OFQUAL are basing them on historic data, so am worried some of our pupils won't get what they deserve.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
No appeal process. Retake in the autumn if not happy and if grades improve you start college or uni a year late. So much for the brouhaha about 5 years olds missing a few weeks worth of finger painting...
BB1’s head sent an email last week saying that a number of parents had been emailing various teachers saying how much work their little darlings had done since the mocks and even including testimonials from various private tutors; head said that this is strictly forbidden and every one of these mails will be passed to the exam board who will be taking a dim view, as per his mail he sent back in March...
BB1’s head sent an email last week saying that a number of parents had been emailing various teachers saying how much work their little darlings had done since the mocks and even including testimonials from various private tutors; head said that this is strictly forbidden and every one of these mails will be passed to the exam board who will be taking a dim view, as per his mail he sent back in March...
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Indeed. The national curriculum simply doesn't work for a lot of pupils who are forced into failure by compulsory examinations and courses in certain subjects. In Wales we are supposed to be moving towards Donaldson's curriculum next year but few of the teachers I've met really understand it and even fewer are in favour (though I am, kind of, if it can be implemented properly).
At the moment a lot of pupils are wasting their time in years 10 and 11 doing stuff they see no point in and have little ability at. League tables were the worst thing to happen to education in a generation or more. We need an overhaul that really looks after those pupils by implementing a vocational timetable that could run alongside the basic national curriculum with no loss to anyone and much gain to some.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
The Guardian -
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Kirklees seem to be saying they will leave it up to individual schools, which is terrible fence-sitting and puts schools in a position where some parents will be angry at them whatever they do.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep, that sounds a bit spineless.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
There's a more comprehensive list, including the differing LA responses, here -
www.theguardian.com
ETA - Raheem - I'm wondering if some of that is down to how much authority la's actually have.
That's only come to mind because of a reply I had a couple of weeks back from one of my (very good) local union heads, which pointed to the fact that even where la's were onside 'in theory governors are responsible and can basically choose any practises they like' - so I guess there may be some less obvious reasons for the different messages, too and I'm mostly just really pleased that any of them are coming out against a set June 1st start date.
English schools reopening: which councils will meet 1 June deadline?
What councils up and down the country are advising their schools, teachers and parents
ETA - Raheem - I'm wondering if some of that is down to how much authority la's actually have.
That's only come to mind because of a reply I had a couple of weeks back from one of my (very good) local union heads, which pointed to the fact that even where la's were onside 'in theory governors are responsible and can basically choose any practises they like' - so I guess there may be some less obvious reasons for the different messages, too and I'm mostly just really pleased that any of them are coming out against a set June 1st start date.
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I work in a white collar industry that requires pretty much zero qualifications to get in to. As a result you get a wide range of talents passing through. But to see CVs from people claiming to have a GCSE in Iniglish and so on it does make me think that the relentless push towards office (call centre) work is any good. You can often tell if a kid is not academic at 11 or 12 and surely if they are up for it steering them to a skill or skills they can master will see them in better stead?
teachers who’s kids aren’t at their school could be properly screwed, or patents with kids at multiple schools
Glitter
Goddess of rock!
Calderdale next door have said emphatically not.
Thora
Differently Ethical
Only some years are going back and most are going part time, so it's not going to be any good as childcare for most people.
Teachers' kids will still be eligible for key worker places though even if the school doesn't open for other children.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
They're 'advising' schools not to open - Keeping schools safe during COVID-19 - like I say, I think that's about the best la's can actually do because it IS down to the individual schools, ultimately.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
For non-academy schools there's an issue around the ultimate employer status of the LA and, it sounded from the short snatch i heard this morning on the radio, as if some Governing bodies are less than certain that they want to be held responsible for putting staff in harms way. I presume this all boils down to the risk of litigation.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Fair enough, There's nowt like fear of the consequences coming back to bite them to make people decide not do something stupid.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Proper clusterfuck this, with added political grandstanding by the government, mail etc. It's just so obvious in a situation where people, literally, fear for their lives and those of their loved ones, that you try to build a consensus and build in a proper process.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Asbestos?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Im going to have to disagree with this.
Im of that age where I went through school system that did "steer" kids. It was the 11plus exam.
If you passed you went to "academic" grammer if you failed you went to Secondary Modern.
I have a real problem with this concept of a split between academic and non academic learning. My experience is that it was class based. And the split between the two was to reproduce the class system.
My primary school was in working class area. The kids I went to school with expected to leave school as soon as possible to get apprenticeship in Dockyard or become a Fisherman. In 60s 70s before Thatcher these were high status jobs in local community. Thats before the working class were written off in 80s.
( and it was boys. Work was for men and women were housewives who did a bit of part time work.)
The school system I went to assumed this was just the order of things.
Myself being square peg me would have liked both. Academic and skills. I dont see why they can't ovverlap
So since then Ive always been wary of ideas of funneling some kids into "skill" based education.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
A very serious H&S issue in schools (colleague of mine died of a very aggressive lung cancer after teaching for 2 decades in a room with asbestos boarding that he stuck drawing pins in & out of)...but I'm not sure what point you're trying to make wrt Covid.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Think you missed the bit where I said, “If they’re up for it.”
The relentless drive towards exams, pushing all kids down an academic path when clearly not all people are suited to it is not helpful. Now they can’t leave school at 15 or 16 any more, they have to stick around until 18 or prove they are doing something else. All this every child matters liberal shit just pushes many kids away. This is fucking bitter personal experience talking here, btw, so maybe judgement is clouded. I do understand that setting a kid’s future at 11+ was crap, but telling them they can be a bank manager when they still need their fingers to do maths at 13, yet can strip an engine without breaking a sweat seems to me to be doing a disservice to kids.
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Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Back when I was in college as a student (late 90s) we were doing soldering in class and the teacher asked us to use soldering boards. I asked what the boards were made of and the teacher replied "asbestos". I thought for a second and then asked the follow up "Do you mean like 'asbestos' asbestos or is there some form of it that is safe to use?" the teacher said they didn't know but would ask. Next week the teacher returned and said we were to wet the soldering boards before use.
I never fucking touched one again.
My sons in this category. It’s round peg square hole. In Leeds they have started offering a technical education again, which you can do from 14. His grandad was an apprentice, his dad started his own business, he’ll do the same.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Yep, we used the same. Brings back memories. Also ironing board at home had asbestos mat with fibres coming off it. My point was that governing bodies haven't been closing down schools despite the known asbestos risks.
ska invita
back on the other side
i presume this is true
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Johnson denied it, didn't he?i presume this is true
Indeliblelink
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Couple of years ago they discovered that loads of schools were using crappy Chinese imported heat proof gauze mats for use with bunsen burners that had asbestos in them.
Pretty much every school in the UK had to replace theirs, it didn't raise too many headlines and no schools were closed AFAIK despite the fact many science labs that pupils had been using for years were contaminated by asbestos . In most cases support staff had to clear them away without asbestos removal training.
Bunsen burner gauze mats containing asbestos in schools across UK, officials reveal
Government writes urgent letter to all secondary schools and colleges advising them to ‘remove and dispose of potentially hazardous mesh gauze used in science lessons’
www.independent.co.uk
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Sweet FA
✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪
Really? You know what that was in response to? Children's lives have been saved by responses to the ECM doc. (I'm not defending it 100% obviously but to dismiss it completely as liberal shit is to underestimate the effect it had (just ime, ymmv etc)).
I've stayed away from thread because I was pretty pissed off (the Daily Mail headline thing + some terrible antisocial cuntery on here basically). Like most YR/1/6 teachers though, I'll be back in from June 1 but it'll probably be alright
(The asbestos thing is pretty widespread - we were going to have our school hall windows replaced, necessitating the roof coming off (no, me neither); turns out everything's made of asbestos. The current plan is basically: hold your breath, back away slowly, replace the ceiling tiles and never speak of this again. There are loads of schools in the same position.)
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