Rape allegations against Jimmy Tarbuck

[cdg]

so i can joke about space shuttles blowing up and seven astronauts dying or madeleine mccann's disappearance.

You can do what you want, and I can tell you I find it offensive.

 

[cdg]

fuck off yourself you humourless cunt.

What's the best thing about fucking twenty four year olds?

 

[Pickman's model]

What's the best thing about fucking twenty four year olds?

i've heard this but i've forgotten the punchline.

 

[cdg]

didn't see you saying anything like this about my jimmy savile's ipod thread. where were you then, eh?

I can't say I've seen it.

 

[Buckaroo]

lol, kids getting abused hahaha. Talk about a fucking laugh.

I know, it's fucking hilarious, comedians and celebs and child abuse and show biz rock stars and politicians and cops and posh cunts and cover ups and more child abuse and more and more and more. Funny stuff. Lighten up, it's just a bit of fun, bit of a laugh.

 

[Pickman's model]

what's the worst thing about shagging six year olds?

Spoiler

having to kill them after

 

[cdg]

i've heard this but i've forgotten the punchline.

There's twenty of them. That's funny innit, the thought of shagging a four year old.

 

[Pickman's model]

There's twenty of them. That's funny innit, the thought of shagging a four year old.

no, the amusement comes from the thought of 20

 

[Wilf]

You have the cheek to call me perverse in the same sentence as stating you find sex crimes funny?

Fuck off and die.

to be honest, PM doesn't find abuse funny. On an iconoclastic website (yikes) we all deal with this shit in our own way. At risk of stating the obvious, we're just contrasting the crass banality of 70s tv with some truly vile abuse, that's all. Abuse is very real, very painful, but there's different ways of attacking it.

 

[cdg]

no, the amusement comes from the thought of 20

You're a bit of a cunt aren't you? Are racist jokes OK then, or sexist jokes?

 

[Pickman's model]

You're a bit of a cunt aren't you? Are racist jokes OK then, or sexist jokes?

why, do you know any decent ones?

 

[cdg]

why, do you know any decent ones?

Sexist or racist?

 

[Pickman's model]

Sexist or racist?

start us off with a racist joke then.

 

[UrbaneFox]

I'm not quite sure why we are suddenly back in the state where the chances of threads surviving is vastly reduced by the random throwing around of names that have not been accused of anything.

Quite, and I started it above, but Ken's people won't be sueing Urban75.
Bangs hammer.

 

[cdg]

start us off with a racist joke then.

No. I'll leave the nauseating jokes to you. You seem good at them.

 

[Part 2]

As for musicals, rock & pop stars being exposed, I tend to expect this group to be underrepresented in this belated form of justice. This will be in quite some part due to a range of additional complications brought about by the dynamics of the groupie phenomenon. Victims may have a more complex set of feelings tugging against eachother in their minds, eg may be less willing to think of themselves as victims in a clearcut manner, or more likely to still have respect for the perpetrators. It is incredibly hard to talk about all of this sensibly without saying some things that are in some way dodgy, but I still have to mention it. And of course there may well be many examples that are not affected by these issues at all, but they mostly havent come to light yet.

Good point.

It seems to be the classical world where the real predatory stuff is happening....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/07/manchester-music-schools-teachers-investigation

 

[Wilf]

start us off with a racist joke then.

My mother in law's so Islamophobic.

Edit: missed the apostrophe. That would have offended you.

 

[Pickman's model]

No. I'll leave the nauseating jokes to you. You seem good at them.

here's one i got from an imperial rag mag

how do you make a baby float?

Spoiler

two scoops of baby, two scoops of ice cream and lemonade

 

[Sprocket.]

They get away with it because they move in the social circles that get away with it.
Judges, police officers,politicians, freemasons. Bastards and bastards the bastards!
Or is it golfers?

 

[Pickman's model]

My mother in law's so Islamophobic.

how's she smell?

 

[Buckaroo]

how's she smell?

She lost her sense of smell after she got acid thrown in her face for looking at a Jew or something.

 

[cdg]

here's one i got from an imperial rag mag

how do you make a baby float?

Spoiler

two scoops of baby, two scoops of ice cream and lemonade

For all you know I could have been a victim of sexual abuse as a child, and yet you still continued to defend your comments as humour.

 

[Wilf]

how's she smell?

Like all the rest of them in the mental health care home. Of Prozac and werthers.

 

[ymu]

so i can joke about space shuttles blowing up and seven astronauts dying or madeleine mccann's disappearance but celebrity sex crimes are off limits? what a perverse line that is to draw.

I think the difference is in the absence of a class of victims systematically targeted by a minority of NASA incompetents. Black humour is helpful in facing tragedy but when at least one in seven of the population experiences sexual abuse as a child and at least five out of ten experience it as an adult, it's probably best for the 'jokers' to have a little think about whether they're having a bit of fun or actually just repeatedly battering more vulnerable others over the head with the shitty end of the very shitty stick.

 

[laptop]

For all you know I could have been a victim of sexual abuse as a child, and yet you still continued to defend your comments as humour.

For all that, your complaint appears to be that there is humour too close to a mention of abuse. I haven't seen any purported humour about actual abuse.

What is the proper distance? Should it be six threads away? On a different forum? On a different interweb?

 

[cdg]

What is the proper distance? Should it be six threads away? On a different forum? On a different interweb?

Or not at all.

 

[Buckaroo]

For all you know I could have been a victim of sexual abuse as a child, and yet you still continued to defend your comments as humour.

For all you know we're all victims. Fuck off.

 

[cdg]

For all you know we're all victims. Fuck off.

If you were then you wouldn't, or perhaps I ought to say shouldn't, be trying to trivialise it on a public forum.

 

[laptop]

Or not at all.

There should be no humour, anywhere?

 

[ViolentPanda]

lol, kids getting abused hahaha. Talk about a fucking laugh.

Yes, using humour to point up the revoltingness of the offenders and their offences, it's fucking awful, isn't it?



Get a grip, eh?

You know what we do if we don't laugh about horrible shit like this? We cry, you daft cunt. Joking doesn't disrespect the victims, it enables us to handle the thought of the crimes so we can consider the victims.

Jesus, some people should be fed a kick in the head a day!