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Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

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According to The Times today, when Prince Philip retired Buckingham Palace wrote to the Grenadier Guards asking if they would like to have Prince Andrew as their patron.

The Guards wrote back asking if they had any other royal instead. The Palace was furious and insisted they invite Prince Andrew.

Made me smile, anyway.

Think that was more about pointless hill marches
 
I think that, by her own account, she was over 16, and ostensibly consented.

I'm not defending him, or his actions, but the police can't investigate absent a prima facie crime.

Her claim is she was trafficked to the UK against her will to be used as a prostitute aged 17. Take your pick of what crimes anyone who had sex with her under those circumstances has committed. Rape of a minor applies.
 
Her claim is she was trafficked to the UK against her will to be used as a prostitute aged 17. Take your pick of what crimes anyone who had sex with her under those circumstances has committed. Rape of a minor applies.

Err... 16 was the age of consent, then. And nothing in her account that gives rise to a reasonable suspicion that he did not believe that she consented.

And there's no suggestion that Andrew trafficked her - that was Epstein and Maxwell.

Regretfully, as seedy as his conduct was, it's far from clear that, even if what she says is true (and I suspect it is) it would amount to a crime on Andrew's part.

Which is why the MPS are able to decline to investigate.
 
The most obvious prima facie crime is by Maxwell - sex trafficking, pimping. If PA knew about that, of course, he's in shit as well, but he'd surely be a person of interest in any investigation into Maxwell. Put it this way, if it were you or me whose bestie mates were being investigated for running a sex trafficking ring and it was alleged that they gave me girls from that ring for me to have sex with in their house, we'd be feeling the heat.

And let's face it, that is why they also haven't investigated her.
 
Her claim is she was trafficked to the UK against her will to be used as a prostitute aged 17. Take your pick of what crimes anyone who had sex with her under those circumstances has committed. Rape of a minor applies.
Age of consent usually counts as where you are rather than what it is where you're from.
 
I hear that it's because he never uses lube :(
I think this attempt at humour is somewhat off target.

Coerced or forced sex just isn't funny. And this isn't the first thread on urban recently where a male poster has made such a 'joke' leaving more than one female urb feeling distinctly uncomfortable (at best) if not downright creeped out.

So can this behaviour stop?
 
Err... 16 was the age of consent, then. And nothing in her account that gives rise to a reasonable suspicion that he did not believe that she consented.

Errr...the age a prostitute must be in the UK is 18. And the fact she states quite clearly that she felt coerced in to travelling with Maxwell and Epstein is the bit where, you know, consent is not given

And there's no suggestion that Andrew trafficked her - that was Epstein and Maxwell.

And?

Shag a woman trafficked to the UK against her will and you can find yourself in very hot water.


Regretfully, as seedy as his conduct was, it's far from clear that, even if what she says is true (and I suspect it is) it would amount to a crime on Andrew's part.

Which is why the MPS are able to decline to investigate.

It's a long-shot he'll get done even if all she said is proved categorically. But it is very much on the line of quite serious criminality, which is why he's coming out with his load of old fanny.

And the MPS has no interest in investigating any senior royal for serious offences, quite the opposite in fact. Had these allegations been made against an ordinary Joe they would at least have a nosey to see what the hullabaloo is all about.
 
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