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Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

Interesting to read the background story of how the interview came about. Clearly it wasn’t solely Andrew’s lack of judgement, but that his support crew was also detached from reality. I wonder why the Queen apparently gave her blessing to it going ahead? Hasn’t she always been in favour of saying the least possible, to avoid controversy?

I would have expected Beatrice, as a young person, to be a bit more clued up, or at least more connected with modern society but maybe not.
 
MrCurry said:
Interesting to read the background story of how the interview came about. Clearly it wasn’t solely Andrew’s lack of judgement, but that his support crew was also detached from reality. I wonder why the Queen apparently gave her blessing to it going ahead? Hasn’t she always been in favour of saying the least possible, to avoid controversy?

I would have expected Beatrice, as a young person, to be a bit more clued up, or at least more connected with modern society but maybe not.
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They live in a bubble. They hear the noises from outside but nothing really affects them. They think it's a one way valve of influence - theirs on us.
 
A few hilarious bits from that article. That Andrew actually came prepared with those stories about Pizza Express and his non-sweating, they weren't just off the cuff anecdotes, he must have rehearsed them. And nobody said, 'er, hang on'... and they didnt run any of it past a legal team. The arrogance.

I also like that the producer was offered one of the Queen's favourite cocktails, a gin martini, to calm her nerves before shooting :D What a weird experience, what a bizarre day that must have been. That interview was arguably more damaging to the monarchy than Diana's and yet they had no press officers, no lawyers, no PRs present.
 
bluescreen said:
They live in a bubble. They hear the noises from outside but nothing really affects them. They think it's a one way valve of influence - theirs on us.
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It’s a lot easier for celebs / royals to not be in a bubble these days, with the internet allowing anyone to integrate themselves anonymously into social media communities. I can’t think of any reason why the younger royals wouldn’t be all over Twitter / Facebook / forums satisfying their curiosity about how ordinary people live. Maybe we have a few amongst the urbs?! 😂
 
Surely the fact that no lawyers etc were present is evidence that the monarchy is a transparent and open institution which doesn't want to conceal information from its subjects. Disappointing that people are condemning them for allowing Prince Andrew just to answer the questions as he saw fit and then face the consequences. That's hardly arrogance - in fact it's exemplary.
 
teuchter said:
Surely the fact that no lawyers etc were present is evidence that the monarchy is a transparent and open institution which doesn't want to conceal information from its subjects. Disappointing that people are condemning them for allowing Prince Andrew just to answer the questions as he saw fit and then face the consequences. That's hardly arrogance - in fact it's exemplary.
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Exemplary, possibly. Wise, though, it was not.
 
teuchter said:
Surely the fact that no lawyers etc were present is evidence that the monarchy is a transparent and open institution which doesn't want to conceal information from its subjects. Disappointing that people are condemning them for allowing Prince Andrew just to answer the questions as he saw fit and then face the consequences. That's hardly arrogance - in fact it's exemplary.
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if the monarchy do not wish to conceal information from its subjects then all they need do is advertise on their websites their dealings with ministers concerning representations made by the crown about legislation which may affect the foul windsor clan. they can add their archives to the national archives, to be consulted by anyone who desires to. they can reveal the queen's wealth, her investments, her private income. and the same for charles and anne and edward and the unspeakable nonce, and on and on.
 
Pickman's model said:
if the monarchy do not wish to conceal information from its subjects then all they need do is advertise on their websites their dealings with ministers concerning representations made by the crown about legislation which may affect the foul windsor clan. they can add their archives to the national archives, to be consulted by anyone who desires to. they can reveal the queen's wealth, her investments, her private income. and the same for charles and anne and edward and the unspeakable nonce, and on and on.
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I expect they would like to do all of this but don't because they know that hot heads on forums like this would start saying they were incompetent and so on. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
 
teuchter said:
Surely the fact that no lawyers etc were present is evidence that the monarchy is a transparent and open institution which doesn't want to conceal information from its subjects. Disappointing that people are condemning them for allowing Prince Andrew just to answer the questions as he saw fit and then face the consequences. That's hardly arrogance - in fact it's exemplary.
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Your OBE is in the post, no need to overdo it
 
Incompetent?! Conducting a potentially career ending interview with a famously brilliant interviewer without any outside media training/question vetting assistance? as it happens i work for a company that does exactly that and as the producer said, no CEO would agree to doing that without a team of people watching, coaching beforehand etc. This idiot had his 'equerry' there manning the bar laughing about the family movie night later and his dim-witted daughter negotiating the terms.

Bonkers. But couldn't happen to a nicer chap.
 
Actually, he probably didn't even know who Maitliss was.

I was at an event a couple of months ago, where she was on a panel with various bigwigs, and owned it. But obvs this thing came up in the Q&A which tbf she didn't really want to go into in the detail this producer did and got things back on track. She is a totally class act, he surely must have been alerted to that. He was sweating while saying he doesn't have the ability to sweat.
 
MrCurry said:
Interesting to read the background story of how the interview came about. Clearly it wasn’t solely Andrew’s lack of judgement, but that his support crew was also detached from reality. I wonder why the Queen apparently gave her blessing to it going ahead? Hasn’t she always been in favour of saying the least possible, to avoid controversy?

I would have expected Beatrice, as a young person, to be a bit more clued up, or at least more connected with modern society but maybe not.
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Presumably some PR drone advised Brenda that keeping schtum doesn't cut it in this day and age, and it's better to get out in front of these things.

Unless of course, you're as guilty as sin and as thick as a submarine door.
 
Petcha said:
Incompetent?! Conducting a potentially career ending interview with a famously brilliant interviewer without any outside media training/question vetting assistance? as it happens i work for a company that does exactly that and as the producer said, no CEO would agree to doing that without a team of people watching, coaching beforehand etc. This idiot had his 'equerry' there manning the bar laughing about the family movie night later and his dim-witted daughter negotiating the terms.

Bonkers. But couldn't happen to a nicer chap.
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It sounds like the urban75 postership has more expertise and experience in successfully covering up the misdemeanours of the super wealthy than the royal family does.

Kind of makes you stop and think about things.
 
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