Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[srb7677]

It has always struck me how we are raised from childhood on a diet of monarchist propaganda, with stories of kindly kings and beautiful princesses putting on parties for all the children of the realm. When in reality throughout most of history they were murdering their siblings and torturing their enemies to death, and even today they include obvious nonces amongst their numbers.

The kind of parties for all the children of the realm that Andrew might have in mind would never make it into any fairy tale.

 

[tim]

He must be pissed off thinking "couple of hundred years ago I could have had any of these fucking complainers hung "

I think you underestimate the utter contempt that people had for royalty 200 years ago. They were seen in the popular media as absurd, decadent and depraved with none of the sentimentality of today.



The pauper, in the 1812 cartoon above, commenting about hanging rich rogues is quoting the Beggar's Opera which satirised the political corruption of the 1720's, so nearly 300 years ago. It portrayed Walpole , the Prime-Minister as a pimp fence and grass.


We're far too soft on the powerful these days.

 

[two sheds]

three hundred?

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Ha!

 

[SpookyFrank]

but will the guards go for it or will even they hesitate to be associated with the shit in human form that is andrew mountbatten-windsor?

HM armed forces have never shown any reluctance to lick a nonce's boots prior to now. In fact they've got considerable form for naming them admiral of the fleet.

 

[TopCat]

The sheer brass neck of nonce is outstanding

 

[elbows]

The sheer brass neck of nonce is outstanding

I believe he always had a reputation for being a thick and arrogant bore, so Im not really surprised at the extent to which he wants to reclaim titles etc.

 

[tim]

HM armed forces have never shown any reluctance to lick a nonce's boots prior to now. In fact they've got considerable form for naming them admiral of the fleet.

Yes, say what you like about the Russian Army in Ukraine but some of them seem to have given up on military deference and have started to take inspiration from the lyrics of the Internationale

No more deluded by reaction
On tyrants only we’ll make war
The soldiers too will take strike action
They’ll break ranks and fight no more
And if those cannibals keep trying
To sacrifice us to their pride
They soon shall hear the bullets flying
We’ll shoot the generals on our own side.

 

[A380]

It has always struck me how we are raised from childhood on a diet of monarchist propaganda, with stories of kindly kings and beautiful princesses putting on parties for all the children of the realm. When in reality throughout most of history they were murdering their siblings and torturing their enemies to death, and even today they include obvious nonces amongst their numbers.

The kind of parties for all the children of the realm that Andrew might have in mind would never make it into any fairy tale.

Who’s this ‘we’? You might have been but I most certainly was not.

 

[srb7677]

Who’s this ‘we’? You might have been but I most certainly was not.

Was talking about the shite they were forever putting on children's TV.

I was never taken in by it. I instinctively knew it was shit from a very young age. But the inherent propaganda was obvious.

 

[Pickman's model]

It has always struck me how we are raised from childhood on a diet of monarchist propaganda, with stories of kindly kings and beautiful princesses putting on parties for all the children of the realm. When in reality throughout most of history they were murdering their siblings and torturing their enemies to death, and even today they include obvious nonces amongst their numbers.

The kind of parties for all the children of the realm that Andrew might have in mind would never make it into any fairy tale.

If you look at grimm and other collections of fairy tales that haven't been sugared up for children they're remarkably dark. Things like hansel and gretel for example. Prince Andrew would fit into them very well

 

[ouirdeaux]

They may be dark, but they're hardly critical of the idea of a monarchy/hereditary ruler. Look at the story of the Goose Girl, where breeding wins the day.

 

[A380]

Was talking about the shite they were forever putting on children's TV.

I was never taken in by it. I instinctively knew it was shit from a very young age. But the inherent propaganda was obvious.

You were raised by TV? Oh well, explains a fair bit.

 

[maomao]

My kid's primary school teaches endless pro-royal garbage. She just doesn't believe me when I tell her they're all parasitic wankers.

 

[srb7677]

You were raised by TV? Oh well, explains a fair bit.

Don't be silly. But like a lot of kids of the 70s I used to watch a lot of children's TV. But we got the same fairy tale propaganda in schools.

 

[TopCat]

You were raised by TV? Oh well, explains a fair bit.

Thatsabit off.

 

[srb7677]

Thatsabit off.

The unprovoked cavalier and unnecessary rudeness and insults from a small minority here has been duly noted, but such things say more about those expressing it than their targets most of the time. If I get too much of this from any individual they will just end up on ignore, as one of them is already.

Tis generally better and more effective to play the ball than the man.

 

[kabbes]

Thatsabit off.

Yeah, it’s absolutely fair comment to note that children swim in a sea of subtle and not-so-subtle monarchist propaganda. It’s not even the overt stuff that I find particularly insidious, because that is more easily identified and counteracted. I’m more bothered by the endless assumptions and unremarked-upon customs that act to constantly reproduce the idea that Britain is us and Britain is good and the monarchy is Britain so the monarch is us and good. It is taken for granted that schools will celebrate the jubilee, for instance. It’s taken for granted that the the prime minister will give a speech in front of two flags. It’s taken for granted that the national anthem appears at events, and references the queen. It’s not just the thing itself, it’s the fact that it is taken for granted that the thing will happen.

 

[killer b]

I would be delighted if Andrew returned as a full time royal, and hope the queen really sticks her neck out in the most visible way to assist him in his return. Quite why any of us would want this gift to republicanism to be neutralised is beyond me.

 

[High Voltage]

killer b he makes a very good point

 

[MickiQ]

I would be delighted if Andrew returned as a full time royal, and hope the queen really sticks her neck out in the most visible way to assist him in his return. Quite why any of us would want this gift to republicanism to be neutralised is beyond me.

Gotta admit you make a good point there

 

[A380]

The unprovoked cavalier and unnecessary rudeness and insults from a small minority here has been duly noted, but such things say more about those expressing it than their targets most of the time. If I get too much of this from any individual they will just end up on ignore, as one of them is already.

Tis generally better and more effective to play the ball than the man.

You Ok Hun?

 

[Pickman's model]

I would be delighted if Andrew returned as a full time royal, and hope the queen really sticks her neck out in the most visible way to assist him in his return. Quite why any of us would want this gift to republicanism to be neutralised is beyond me.

neutered, not neutralised

 

[Pickman's model]

The unprovoked cavalier and unnecessary rudeness and insults from a small minority here has been duly noted, but such things say more about those expressing it than their targets most of the time. If I get too much of this from any individual they will just end up on ignore, as one of them is already.

Tis generally better and more effective to play the ball than the man.

if you were to go back and revisit our exchanges you'd see i didn't insult you once, but you thought that calling me a knobhead was the height of sophistication. seems to me you've one rule for yourself and another for everyone else.

 

[srb7677]

You Ok Hun?

Fuck off.

 

[Pickman's model]

Fuck off.

yeh you're very happy to dive into the big box of insults

 

[dessiato]

The unprovoked cavalier and unnecessary rudeness and insults from a small minority here has been duly noted, but such things say more about those expressing it than their targets most of the time. If I get too much of this from any individual they will just end up on ignore, as one of them is already.

Tis generally better and more effective to play the ball than the man.

Unfortunately there some whose sole modus operandi is this. They'll target people specifically to follow them around the boards to do just this.

Ignore button is your friend.

 

[srb7677]

Ignore button is your friend.

I know, lol. There are now two on my ignore list already.

People who have nothing intelligent or constructive to say, and are just on a wind up, are people whose utterances I have zero interest in.

 

[srb7677]

I would be delighted if Andrew returned as a full time royal, and hope the queen really sticks her neck out in the most visible way to assist him in his return. Quite why any of us would want this gift to republicanism to be neutralised is beyond me.

Imagine if somehow Andrew ended up on the throne.

A republican's dream, lol

 

[killer b]

Imagine if somehow Andrew ended up on the throne.

Some Nepal style event would need to happen for this to be a possibility, and I have to say I'd be into it.

 

[Chilli.s]

Imagine if somehow Andrew ended up on the throne.

Imagine the Royal Variety Show that could be done...