Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Orang Utan]

Re puppets:

Prince Andrew Allegedly Used a Puppet of Himself to Grope Victims at Jeffrey Epstein’s Home

The allegations were detailed in Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s unpublished manuscript, which was part of a trove of recently unsealed court documents.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[danny la rouge]

so he's saying she's got his Spitting Image puppet?

sorry I'm a bit confused here

Ah, well, there’s a problem here. It’s not a puppet, it’s a simple caricature.

 

[bluescreen]

No, she's asking for him to produce it and documents relating to it. Exhibit B is Windsor's lawyers' response to Giuffre's lawyers' request for pre-trial production of documents etc.

 

[tim]

But if the process of getting it dismissed results in your reputation being destroyed, what have you actually achieved?

If your reputation has already been destroyed getting it dismissed would make life easier than going through the rigmarole of a full trial

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Re puppets:

Prince Andrew Allegedly Used a Puppet of Himself to Grope Victims at Jeffrey Epstein’s Home

The allegations were detailed in Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s unpublished manuscript, which was part of a trove of recently unsealed court documents.

www.vanityfair.com

Tbf when I was 15 a 16 year old female wanked me off with a Gordon the Gofer puppet, so it could be a thing for child abusers

 

[tim]

so he's saying she's got his Spitting Image puppet?

sorry I'm a bit confused here

It was actually John Sessions doing his Prince Andrew impersonation that she met when she was with Epstein. He had worked on Spitting Image and so had access to the puppet.

 

[1927]

This is the response to the request for evidence of sweating issues and pizza visits.

It goes on:

I wonder how much his lawyers charged the royal nonce to write that crap!

 

[two sheds]

No, she's asking for him to produce it and documents relating to it. Exhibit B is Windsor's lawyers' response to Giuffre's lawyers' request for pre-trial production of documents etc.

I'm not still really following - so she wants it for dna evidence for example?

urggh sorry

 

[1927]

I'm not still really following - so she wants it for dna evidence for example?

urggh sorry

I think they are just asking he who cant sweat to list all the gifts he was ever given by Epstein or Maxwell.

 

[bluescreen]

I'm not still really following - so she wants it for dna evidence for example?

urggh sorry

Who knows? The relevant part of his objection (which is otherwise full of standard phrasing objections) says:

Defendant objects to this Request on the grounds that it is harassing and seeks confidential and private information and documents that are irrelevant, immaterial and not reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence. Defendant further objects to this Request on the grounds that it assumes facts not in evidence, including without limitation by perpetuating Plaintiff’s false claim that Defendant received a puppet as a gift from Epstein or Maxwell

 

[two sheds]

ta that makes more sense

so objects to the request .... rather than just saying he hasn't got it

 

[bluescreen]

ta that makes more sense

so objects to the request .... rather than just saying he hasn't got it

Yes. That's pretty much his response to all the requests.

Other people can explain the procedure better than me (IANAL), but on the face of it he's being as unco-operative as possible.

 

[Petcha]

So he's not even really bothering to deny this anymore, but relying on various legal loopholes? What an utter shit.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

So he's not even really bothering to deny this anymore, but relying on various legal loopholes? What an utter shit.

I'm pretty sure that if the legal loopholes fail he'll continue to deny it. But will try and settle out of court. Him swearing on oath is the last thing he needs.

 

[two sheds]

And bit of a remarkable defence that asking for a puppet is "harassing and seeks confidential and private information and documents"

"help, help I'm being repressed"

 

[Magnus McGinty]

"help, help I'm being repressed"

Tbf, it must feel like that to somebody who has spent their life with unimaginable privilege who rarely hears the word no.

 

[Athos]

His responses are pretty standard practice for the hardball lawyers acting for him.

 

[two sheds]

true, still fucking shifty though

 

[Wilf]

Randy Andy as the newspapers here once called him regular was a very very good friend and visitor , user of Epsteins jet and holiday homes it seems for many years I find it hard to believe if hes guilty it was just with the 1 girl that kept a photo or somebody else released really there could be more at stake

Yeah, I posted upthread that I wouldn't be surprised if girls/women weren't 'provided' in the gruesome circles he moved in.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Randy Andy as the newspapers here once called him regular was a very very good friend and visitor , user of Epsteins jet and holiday homes it seems for many years I find it hard to believe if hes guilty it was just with the 1 girl that kept a photo or somebody else released really there could be more at stake

I read somewhere once that a lot of them were East European. So perhaps imported through gangs and therefore their silence assured.

 

[Athos]

So he's not even really bothering to deny this anymore, but relying on various legal loopholes? What an utter shit.

No, he'll deny everything if and when the time comes. He's just trying to get it thrown out on procedural grounds, first, so that he doesn't have to engage with the substance. As much as I hope he fails, that's probably the best strategy for him.

 

[two sheds]

Will be expensive if not successful though, I presume the US has taxing of costs like the UK does?

Not that he doesn't have a bob or two.

 

[tim]

I read somewhere once that a lot of them were East European. So perhaps imported through gangs and therefore their silence assured.

Nobody's silence is assured in the long-term.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Nobody's silence is assured in the long-term.

Fair point.

 

[Athos]

Will be expensive if not successful though, I presume the US has taxing of costs like the UK does?

Not that he doesn't have a bob or two

His Mum is We are paying.

 

[Athos]

Nobody's silence is assured in the long-term.

Epstein's is.

 

[two sheds]

Unless he wrote diaries ....

from beyond the grave duh duh duh duh

 

[Ming]

Just to be absolutely fair and to give Randy Andy a fair crack of the whip (ouch) I’m going to ask a senior GP tomorrow at work if exposure to a stressful environment can lead to a change in the skin’s thermoregulation response. And when i get the response that that’s impossible i will report back. Regarding the answer we all know to be the case. Because proof is being required by the US legal system. If he gets away with this on the basis he can’t sweat…well should be interesting.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

There's a list of causes here:

Anhidrosis (Lack of Sweat): Symptoms, Causes & Treatment

Anhidrosis is a condition in which you don’t sweat normally in one or more body areas. Not being able to cool down properly can be dangerous and even life-threatening.

my.clevelandclinic.org

And unless I'm reading it incorrectly, none appear to say "an overdose of adrenaline."

 

[DaveCinzano]

Top work by the Team Sweaty legal eagles paying off as expected once again I see