Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Pickman's model]

As an aside, I note Fergie, the princesses, their husbands and kids are holidaying in Switzerland, with Andy too scarred to leave the grounds of Windsor Great Park

I thought he was just too frightened to go. He must have cut himself up bad

 

[Pickman's model]

He'll always be worried going overseas Incase someone has a warrant out for his arrest

Hence the scarring, to make it difficult to identify him

 

[steveseagull]

He'll always be worried going overseas Incase someone has a warrant out for his arrest

I read somewhere that he cancelled a trip to Spain in the summer as they could sling his arse to the United States. I suspect there is not anywhere he can go without having to look over his shoulder.

 

[seeformiles]

I read somewhere that he cancelled a trip to Spain in the summer as they could sling his arse to the United States. I suspect there is not anywhere he can go without having to look over his shoulder.

Holidays in Bridlington it is then

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

How he is viewed in the US


Prince Andrew interview is a PR nightmare and a national joke

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I read somewhere that he cancelled a trip to Spain in the summer as they could sling his arse to the United States. I suspect there is not anywhere he can go without having to look over his shoulder.

Switzerland could have been safe after Polanski, or perhaps they don’t want to get a rep for paedo-protection and he couldn’t take the chance.

 

[dessiato]

Holidays in Bridlington it is then

There's some nice beaches there. Prince Ponce would like the naturist beach.

 

[Yossarian]

I read somewhere that he cancelled a trip to Spain in the summer as they could sling his arse to the United States. I suspect there is not anywhere he can go without having to look over his shoulder.

Pitcairn Island?

 

[andysays]

It's destroyed anyway. And will be even if a court doesn't find in her favour.

Having it kicked out early protects his fortune, and avoids the risk of a court finding of noncery.

And that was my point.

The various steps he has taken to avoid the case getting to court have in effect achieved the reputational damage he's seeking to avoid.

 

[Athos]

And that was my point.

The various steps he has taken to avoid the case getting to court have in effect caused the reputational damage he's seeking to avoid.

But, if those steps are effective in having the case struck out, they may have been successful in preventing even worse reputational damage i.e. a court finding him a nonce, and the financial implications.

 

[xenon]

I read somewhere that he cancelled a trip to Spain in the summer as they could sling his arse to the United States. I suspect there is not anywhere he can go without having to look over his shoulder.

Sounds like bollocks, being as this is a civil case. I don't think extrodition applies for those does it.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Sounds like bollocks, being as this is a civil case. I don't think extrodition applies for those does it.

The FBI want to speak to him though.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Spain wouldn’t send him anyway, but I reckon they (and many others) would piss themselves if they could nick him whilst asking the Shermans if they wanted him, even if they only held him for a couple of hours it would be fucking gold.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It would probably be a diplomatic incident. Arresting a nonce. This is where we’re at.

 

[kenny g]

Sounds like bollocks, being as this is a civil case. I don't think extrodition applies for those does it.

Difficult to know what the US have up their sleeves re criminal investigations at the best of time. He could always try the Ecuadorian embassy.

 

[Duncan2]

It would be rather astonishing if Prince Andrew were to be allowed to rely on this release agreement.Its vague as has been said upthread but to the point of being meaningless surely.When Guiffre went to law in 2009 she in fact thought it prudent to sue Epstein but literally every individual of capacity within the jurisdiction could have been her target?

 

[kenny g]

15. Defendant objects to the definition of the terms “Jeffrey Epstein” and “Epstein” as overbroad, vague and ambiguous to the extent it incorporates persons and entities of which Defendant has no knowledge. For purposes of responding to these Requests, Defendant understands “Jeffrey Epstein” and “Epstein” to mean Jeffrey Epstein.

16. Defendant objects to the definition of the terms “Ghislaine Maxwell” and “Maxwell” as overbroad, vague and ambiguous to the extent it incorporates persons and entities of which Defendant has no knowledge. For purposes of responding to these Requests, Defendant understands “Ghislaine Maxwell” and “Maxwell” to mean Ghislaine Maxwell.

Exhibit B – #60, Att. #2 in Giuffre v. Prince Andrew (S.D.N.Y., 1:21-cv-06702) – CourtListener.com

My knowledge of US civil legal practice is pretty much fuck all but I can't imagine the above points exactly winning over and impressing any Court. Trawling through the document gives me the impression Andrew's team are just stringing out their fees at the moment. If it isn't already obvious I reckon he is in deep trouble with this action.

 

[two sheds]

wut

 

[kenny g]

This is the response to the request for evidence of sweating issues and pizza visits.

It goes on:

18. Defendant objects to the definition of the terms “You” and “Your” as overbroad,

vague, ambiguous and unduly burdensome to the extent it attempts to expand the scope of these

Interrogatories to information in the possession, custody or control of individuals or entities other

than Defendant himself. For purposes of responding to these Interrogatories, Defendant

understands “You” and “Your” to mean Defendant Prince Andrew and Defendant Prince

Andrew’s, respectively.

 

[two sheds]

wut

 

[bluescreen]

Confess I haven't looked at Exhibit B yet but if the terms 'Ghislaine Maxwell' and 'Maxwell' are 'overbroad', what the hell is the term 'Other Potential Defendants'?

 

[kenny g]

Confess I haven't looked at Exhibit B yet but if the terms 'Ghislaine Maxwell' and 'Maxwell' are 'overbroad', what the hell is the term 'Other Potential Defendants'?

It all reads like something written by someone on prescription speed pills. Which it probably is.

 

[bluescreen]

Ok, I've started reading it and see now that so much of it is just evasive boilerplate. Then I get to Request 6:

All gifts or other things of value and all Documents concerning all gifts or other things of value that You received from Epstein or Maxwell (including any Agent thereof), including but not limited to puppets.

Puppets? wtf?

(Still reading...)

 

[two sheds]

You'd think a judge would look at that and start ignoring any other points 'the Defence' starts making.

Still not sure those are actual quotes tbh.

 

[bluescreen]

Re puppets:

Prince Andrew Allegedly Used a Puppet of Himself to Grope Victims at Jeffrey Epstein’s Home

The allegations were detailed in Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s unpublished manuscript, which was part of a trove of recently unsealed court documents.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[two sheds]

Are they using Giuliani as lawyer?

 

[two sheds]

Re puppets:

Prince Andrew Allegedly Used a Puppet of Himself to Grope Victims at Jeffrey Epstein’s Home

The allegations were detailed in Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s unpublished manuscript, which was part of a trove of recently unsealed court documents.

www.vanityfair.com

Jesus

 

[two sheds]

Ok, I've started reading it and see now that so much of it is just evasive boilerplate. Then I get to Request 6:



Puppets? wtf?

(Still reading...)

what exactly are they requesting? that they're produced in court/evidence?

 

[bluescreen]

what exactly are they requesting? that they're produced in court/evidence?

Yes, it's a request for discovery.

 

[two sheds]

so he's saying she's got his Spitting Image puppet?

sorry I'm a bit confused here