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Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

Wilf said:
To which I raise you

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Then I will raise you
It may be a long game with many cards :hmm:

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Sprocket. said:
The BBC probably spreading their bets in case she manages to overturn the verdict if or when she appeals.
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She can now be referred to as a child sex trafficker without fear of reproach regardless of what any appeal may decide, which btw all legal bods are saying right now that there is no way, the pros ran a tight case specifically to avoid that scenario, she’s history. Just a face saving thing for her scumbag lawyers and even bigger scumbag siblings.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
It’s just the arrogance of these fuckers. That Maxwell has a French passport, she was missing for months, could easily have slipped away to France and settled in next door to Polanski, drinking Bandol for the rest of her days, but she was arrogant enough to hide in the US, thinking her privilege would somehow protect her.
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Her house had a cheeky name, I seem to remember.
 
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My predictions for 2022.
1. Andrew refuses to go to the US for the trial, and is supported by the Queen.
2. Huge public controversy and outrage.
3. The Queen then dies and the monarchy is tarnished by the case.
4. Andrew is booed and attacked at her funeral.
5. After that the monarchy is doomed.

What do you reckon? (I think predictions 1 to 4 are just possible.)
 
Kevbad the Bad said:
My predictions for 2022.
1. Andrew refuses to go to the US for the trial, and is supported by the Queen.
2. Huge public controversy and outrage.
3. The Queen then dies and the monarchy is tarnished by the case.
4. Andrew is booed and attacked at her funeral.
5. After that the monarchy is doomed.

What do you reckon? (I think predictions 1 to 4 are just possible.)
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Plausible.
 
Kevbad the Bad said:
My predictions for 2022.
1. Andrew refuses to go to the US for the trial, and is supported by the Queen.
2. Huge public controversy and outrage.
3. The Queen then dies and the monarchy is tarnished by the case.
4. Andrew is booed and attacked at her funeral.
5. After that the monarchy is doomed.

What do you reckon? (I think predictions 1 to 4 are just possible.)
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Andrew refuses to go. The Queen stays well out of the controversy
Bugger all from The Great British Public. Govt does notrhing so as to not upset the Queen.
Queen dies. It's all about her reign, and how loved she was.
Some people boo Andrew at the funeral, but he's basically ignored. He then just disappears to Balmoral/Sandringham
Charles takes the throne to shouts of God Save the King, and everyone starts waiting for him to die so Wills can takeover the job
Faith in the monarchy restored.

Sorry.
 
mx wcfc said:
Andrew refuses to go. The Queen stays well out of the controversy
Bugger all from The Great British Public. Govt does notrhing so as to not upset the Queen.
Queen dies. It's all about her reign, and how loved she was.
Some people boo Andrew at the funeral, but he's basically ignored. He then just disappears to Balmoral/Sandringham
Charles takes the throne to shouts of God Save the King, and everyone starts waiting for him to die so Wills can takeover the job
Faith in the monarchy restored.

Sorry.
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I prefer Kevbad the Bad's version but suspect this one is more likely. :(
 
Kevbad the Bad said:
My predictions for 2022.
1. Andrew refuses to go to the US for the trial, and is supported by the Queen.
2. Huge public controversy and outrage.
3. The Queen then dies and the monarchy is tarnished by the case.
4. Andrew is booed and attacked at her funeral.
5. After that the monarchy is doomed.

What do you reckon? (I think predictions 1 to 4 are just possible.)
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1. Almost certainly, particularly him not going.
2. Moderate controversy, his ratings get worse, open season for comedians (again). Everybody hates him already.
3, Dies - good chance. Doubt it will hit the monarchy's standing though, that will be Charlie's job. :)
4. I like it!
5. Sadly, no, I don't see an existential crisis for the monarchy in this. Only thing would be back to 1., if there was evidence the queen or Charles had tried to stop a criminal investigation in this country.
 
Nothing to see here people, nothing interesting to be learned.

LONDON — Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, has made an “unprecedented” request for all witness testimony taken in his sexual abuse case to be kept secret, it has emerged.

The Duke wants depositions, including his own, to remain under seal, even if neither party declares the evidence confidential.

Lawyers for the Duke’s accuser, Virginia Giuffre, said there was “no logic or authority for such a provision.”

The revelation was made in a letter from Sigrid McCawley, for Giuffre, to Andrew Brettler, the Duke’s lead counsel, dated Dec 24. It was lodged with the court on Tuesday as part of a fresh attempt to get the civil case thrown out.
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Dont wanna sound all QAnon but... How long will she be sticking around for though if Andy's name gets bandied about?
 
Wilf said:
1. Almost certainly, particularly him not going.
2. Moderate controversy, his ratings get worse, open season for comedians (again). Everybody hates him already.
3, Dies - good chance. Doubt it will hit the monarchy's standing though, that will be Charlie's job. :)
4. I like it!
5. Sadly, no, I don't see an existential crisis for the monarchy in this. Only thing would be back to 1., if there was evidence the queen or Charles had tried to stop a criminal investigation in this country.
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I'm clutching at straws to find a way to figure out how this could go really badly for the monarchy.

Does this work?

Charles dies
Anne dies
Wills and his kids all die
Harry and his kids die
The queen dies

Does that make Andrew King?
That might cause the Monarchy a problem.

(sorry, don't want a detailed analysis of the rules)
 
mx wcfc said:
I'm clutching at straws to find a way to figure out how this could go really badly for the monarchy.

Does this work?

Charles dies
Anne dies
Wills and his kids all die
Harry and his kids die
The queen dies

Does that make Andrew King?
That might cause the Monarchy a problem.

(sorry, don't want a detailed analysis of the rules)
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If the queen dies first, suspect it's more likely the rest of them will then fuck it up? :hmm:
 
Sue said:
If the queen dies first, suspect it's more likely the rest of them will then fuck it up? :hmm:
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It seems most likely the queen will die first/soon.

Charles won't be a popular king, but he'll live on for a few years, then William gets the job.

He seems to me to be popular with the likes of the mail and sun. They love Kate and the kids. and he is the sainted Diana's boy, who married a nice english girl.

Once "Wills" gets the job, the monarchy is safe for a generation or so.

:(
 
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