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Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

MickiQ said:
Apparently the thing next week is just a pre-trial to decide if there will be a trial which probably won't take place until the end of next year.
I thought it was the trial proper but seems not.
On the bright side if all goes well he has another year of (not)sweating ahead of him.
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A nasty paedo-cloud over Brenda’s jubilee shindig 🥳
 
Magnus McGinty said:
It's a long watch for a second innings. But if anyone fancies editing it, the cream is where he distances himself from Epstein by saying he was just the plus one to his good friend Ghislaine. The good friend who is now a convicted child sex trafficker.
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Yep, I was watching it with that in mind last night. Could imagine an edit with pictures of Ghislaine in handcuffs every time he mentions her. Bit like saying, 'oh, no, Gary Glitter wasn't my special friend, I only really knew him through Rolf'.
 
Cerv said:
the unlikely part there is that anyone who'd even think for a second about booing at the funeral would be allowed within miles of the event.
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The cortège will be a public event. It would be impossible to keep people who want to spontaneously boo off the streets. She will also lie in state in public view to anyone who can be bothered to queue for hours so if you are willing to wait you could boo her corpse in a more intimate setting
 
Jan Moir's take on the victims:

The age of enlightenment?​

The youngest victim in the Epstein/Maxwell scandal was 14, and most were in their mid to late teens. Which makes me wonder, at what age does someone move from child-victim status into a person who is responsible for their own actions?

When she was 15, Greta Thunberg began the school strikes and public speeches, which made her an internationally recognised climate activist.

Detractors said the teen had been brainwashed by adults in pursuit of their own causes, while her supporters claimed she was an intelligent campaigner perfectly capable of making her own informed decisions.

Shamima Begum (pictured) was the same age (15) when she travelled 3,000 miles from London to Syria to become an Isis bride.

Her supporters say she was radicalised by adults, while her detractors claim she was an independent crusader, emotionally qualified to make her own choices.

You cannot be both enlightened and misguided at the same time, whatever your age.
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From JAN MOIR: Strip private jets and Ghislaine is Rotherham all over again
and from the same column she is having a pop at Emma Watson
 
Weller said:
Perhaps she didn't waste her time whilst avoiding detection in hiding pulling in in a few cash favors from the rich and famous she "helped" in the past when she took the tin foil off her mobile phone :hmm:
I had expected to hear more about those people during the trial as it was reported they tracked her down via her data usage
Im a bit pissed that before Epsteins death they said they had so much data from a diary and photos videos etc from his homes etc yet we've heard little about that evidence who were in their visitors or contacts , customers list etc and now may never
Hopefully she will spill some beans or someone else will once appeals over etc I dont know much about the law but can she do that now in appeal etc

Ghislaine Maxwell 'kept a mobile phone wrapped in foil to evade detection by law enforcement'
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Epstein's address book is online, he had millions of 'friends' and somewhere on Instagram is an account dedicated to photos of Ghislaine Maxwell with celeb friends. I suspect the show is far from over.
 
Quite impressed by Prince Noncey Pants lawyer using this line:

Andrew’s lawyer, Andrew Brettler, has rejected this on the grounds that it is “harassing and seeks confidential and private information and documents that are irrelevant, immaterial and not reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence.
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Erm, let's just reflect for a moment: who was it who introduced the Arid Extra Dry revelations into the public domain in the first place? :facepalm:
 
TopCat said:
11:39 he says he never went to a i'm free to rape kids party. He then says he did go but it wasn't a party, just a dinner party with 8-10 of "us".
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Ah yes, the long goodbye to Epstein. A full week to say you can't be pals with a convicted nonce.

In all of his multiple interactions with Epstein, I do wonder how many of his staff he took with him? They don't seem to have been interviewed. Can't see him carrying his own bag to be honest.
 
Wilf said:
Quite impressed by Prince Noncey Pants lawyer using this line:


Erm, let's just reflect for a moment: who was it who introduced the Arid Extra Dry revelations into the public domain in the first place? :facepalm:
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Surely the point is that if he can show this to be a lie then anything else he says has to be suspect. as that is part of his counter claim against Guiffre.
 
seeformiles said:
Looks like he might have to prove his Royal dryness:

‘No documents in Prince Andrew’s possession’ to prove inability to sweat claim

www.msn.com
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In the days after the Panorama interview a friend at work came in the morning and said he’d just heard on a news radio station, can’t remember which one, an interview with a doctor in which he was asked if it was really possible for someone to stop sweating through PSTD, and he said it was basically complete bollocks, if not in as many words.
 
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TopCat said:
www.theguardian.com

BBC criticised for giving Ian Maxwell airtime to defend sister Ghislaine

Brother protested her innocence of sex offences in five-minute interview on Radio 4’s Today programme
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Yeah they had a distasteful interview with him at the start of the trial too with plenty of waffle about how innocent she is. Disgusting imho particularly in view of the guilty verdict. Also gave him a platform to bleat about his own innocence from his fathers many crimes. Very poor.
 
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