Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[seeformiles]

In the days after the Panorama interview a friend at work came in the morning and said he’d just heard on a news radio station, can’t remember which one, an interview with a doctor and ask him if it was really possible for someone to stop sweating through PSTD, and he said it was basically complete bollocks, if not in as many words.

I read that the medical concensus was that an excess of adrenalin would tend to cause more sweating rather than less or none at all.

 

[Part 2]

In the days after the Panorama interview a friend at work came in the morning and said he’d just heard on a news radio station, can’t remember which one, an interview with a doctor and ask him if it was really possible for someone to stop sweating through PSTD, and he said it was basically complete bollocks, if not in as many words.

He obvs doesn't know about the symptoms of Pedo Talks Shit Disease.

 

[tim]

Andrew Neil, on the one hand, a fierce defender of his own reputation:

Andrew Neil threatens to sue Jennifer Arcuri after tweet about Epstein


And on the other, a scourge of the depraved and powerful:



Being the upright, respectable chap he is he must be irked by this

Mr Alessi described Ms Maxwell as “the lady of the house” at the Palm Beach property in El Brillo Way, and said she maintained strict control over staff.

Epstein had Maxwell photos removed from Palm Beach when entertaining female guests

 

[Badgers]

 

[two sheds]

Was this posted above? Quite short and good with highlights at 0.50 and 3.50

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Seems the Grand Old Duke’s lawyers have admitted the sweating thing was bullshit and the judge has ruled Virginia Guiffre is a US resident so the trial can go ahead.

Happy New Year

 

[dessiato]

Seems the Grand Old Duke’s lawyers have admitted the sweating thing was bullshit and the judge has ruled Virginia Guiffre is a US resident so the trial can go ahead.

Happy New Year

Got to ask, source? I don't want this to be wrong, and I want proof for when I wind up my royalist friend.

 

[mango5]

I called everyone in Jeffrey Epstein's little black book.

What I learned about rich people, conspiracy, Ghislaine, stand-up comedy, and evil from 2,000 phone calls.

www.motherjones.com

Redacted version of at least one of the address books also easily found JFGI

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Got to ask, source? I don't want this to be wrong, and I want proof for when I wind up my royalist friend.

HateMail; And the judge denied Andrew's requests to delay the case after he claimed Miss Roberts cannot sue in the US on the grounds that she lives in Australia.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Oh and the sweating nonsense…

Lawyers for his accuser Miss Roberts, who is suing the prince for damages in a New York civil case, have demanded he hand over evidence he does not perspire, as he said in a car crash Newsnight interview two years ago when denying her allegations.

But his legal team said 'no documents exist in his possession, custody or control' to back the claim.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I read that the medical concensus was that an excess of adrenalin would tend to cause more sweating rather than less or none at all.

I’m surprised (or perhaps not) that there hasn’t been more vigorous interrogation of this by the British Press given it simply sounds like bollocks.

 

[tim]

I’m surprised (or perhaps not) that there hasn’t been more vigorous interrogation of this by the British Press given it simply sounds like bollocks.

Yes, but bone-dry bollocks.

 

[bluescreen]

Yes, but bone-dry bollocks.

Sure Extreme Ultra Dry bollocks, neck, chest, armpits....

Er, sorry, what was the question? No, I never remember the names of randoms I - how do I put this? -

 

[weltweit]

Anyone have any sympathy with the idea Maxwell might have also been a bit of a victim. Her youth can't have been very normal with her dad, then she found this guy Epstein, who was also bad news but she stayed with him, why? Not to forgive what she did, but just to suggest she might have been damaged goods also.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Anyone have any sympathy with the idea Maxwell might have also been a bit of a victim. Her youth can't have been very normal with her dad, then she found this guy Epstein, who was also bad news but she stayed with him, why? Not to forgive what she did, but just to suggest she might have been damaged goods also.

No

 

[Steel Icarus]

I mean damaged goods maybe, sympathy none

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Anyone have any sympathy with the idea Maxwell might have also been a bit of a victim. Her youth can't have been very normal with her dad, then she found this guy Epstein, who was also bad news but she stayed with him, why? Not to forgive what she did, but just to suggest she might have been damaged goods also.

Born into unimaginable wealth. Sounds terrible.
Although there’s definitely an argument that misogyny means she takes the hit whilst all the rich old white privileged men get away with it.

 

[bluescreen]

Anyone have any sympathy with the idea Maxwell might have also been a bit of a victim. Her youth can't have been very normal with her dad, then she found this guy Epstein, who was also bad news but she stayed with him, why? Not to forgive what she did, but just to suggest she might have been damaged goods also.

Have heard stories from people who knew her back then that strongly suggest she was abused by her father and learned from that how to appease powerful men. Not that any of that excuses her - the world has far too many abused people, most of whom grew up differently and determined to right wrongs. And people aren't machines. They react differently to trauma.
But it might go some way to explain why she took the power-pleasing way out, and how she was able to shut out other people's suffering. As if any of this could be comprehendible.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Have heard stories from people who knew her back then that strongly suggest she was abused by her father and learned from that how to appease powerful men. Not that any of that excuses her - the world has far too many abused people, most of whom grew up differently and determined to right wrongs. And people aren't machines. They react differently to trauma.
But it might go some way to explain why she took the power-pleasing way out, and how she was able to shut out other people's suffering. As if any of this could be comprehendible.

She also has agency and opportunities that others could only dream of. Which didn’t limit her to Epstein whatsoever.

 

[1927]

I called everyone in Jeffrey Epstein's little black book.

What I learned about rich people, conspiracy, Ghislaine, stand-up comedy, and evil from 2,000 phone calls.

www.motherjones.com

Redacted version of at least one of the address books also easily found JFGI

Has anyone read that entire article? shocking.

 

[bluescreen]

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[bluescreen]

She also has agency and opportunities that others could only dream of. Which didn’t limit her to Epstein whatsoever.

Yes. If anyone had the opportunity to break free, with money and education and connections, she did.
But she didn't.
We will never know why. Even if she writes her best-selling memoir in choky, it won't be telling the truth.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Yes. If anyone had the opportunity to break free, with money and education and connections, she did.
But she didn't.
We will never know why. Even if she writes her best-selling memoir in choky, it won't be telling the truth.

She made a simple contract with Epstein where upon he would unlock untold wealth to her disposal and she would go along with his wishes. It wasn't done at gun point.

 

[bluescreen]

She made a simple contract with Epstein where upon he would unlock untold wealth to her disposal and she would go along with his wishes. It wasn't done at gun point.

It sounds like that. Or maybe it was as much emotional as financial. What switched off her moral compass, or was she born without one?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It sounds like that. Or maybe it was as much emotional as financial. What switched off her moral compass, or was she born without one?

What switched off his? Or Andrew's?

 

[bluescreen]

What switched off his?

It's weird isn't it? Some people are too selfish and greedy. It would solve so many problems if we could only locate what tips them over, or maybe argue better for our own standards.

 

[weltweit]

It seems odd to me that Andrew is the only man being pursued as an abuser. It seems unlikely he was the only one and Epstein's contacts book must be filled with the contact details of the rich and prominent. Perhaps other victims of Epstein and Maxwell will come forward in the coming months and name new names.

 

[mx wcfc]

It seems odd to me that Andrew is the only man being pursued as an abuser. It seems unlikely he was the only one and Epstein's contacts book must be filled with the contact details of the rich and prominent. Perhaps other victims of Epstein and Maxwell will come forward in the coming months and name new names.

Let's hope so, eh?

 

[weltweit]

I suppose in Andrew's case there is the testimony, AND there is that photo!

 

[MrSki]

It seems odd to me that Andrew is the only man being pursued as an abuser. It seems unlikely he was the only one and Epstein's contacts book must be filled with the contact details of the rich and prominent. Perhaps other victims of Epstein and Maxwell will come forward in the coming months and name new names.

Yeah but he was the only one stupid enough to go & spend a week with him saying fond good-byes after he got out from the first sentence.