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Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

Very much gives the appearance that the UK state broadcaster was trying to assist in destroying the credibility of a victim of child sexual abuse who is accusing a senior British Royal of committing that abuse.

Yes, the very same UK state broadcaster who employed one Jimmy Saville for decades, knowing full well the 'speculation' surrounding him. Which proved to be totally true. And which they all but turned a blind eye too.

Sadly nothing surprises me about that 'national treasure' organization anymore and the way they operate.
 
Yes, the very same UK state broadcaster who employed one Jimmy Saville for decades, knowing full well the 'speculation' surrounding him. Which proved to be totally true. And which they all but turned a blind eye too.

Sadly nothing surprises me about that 'national treasure' organization anymore and the way they operate.
Was that the same Jimmy Savile who was a close friend of Andrew's brother - so close, in fact, that he acted as their unofficial marriage counsellor?
Indeed it was. (And is that the same brother who has an unfortunate tendency to befriend and defend wrong uns, such as the former bishop of Lewes and of Gloucester? Indeed it is. They are an unlucky pair of brothers, unwise in their friends.)

And is that the same BBC that's worried about where its next meal is coming from?
 
Might happen if she could deliver damning evidence against Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, though I'm not sure prosecutors will be ambitious enough tSimo try to lock up a third of the country's living presidents.
I was wondering similarly. The usual working assumption is that the authorities don't want to pursue the rich and powerful. I can imagine there might be a few who feel Dershovitz has got it coming, but even that would get rather messy, given the shit he will have on X, Y and Z. Similarly, why would they want to go after Poedipus Rex? He'd certainly be a feather in the cap of the prosecutor, but more problematic in a geopolitical context.
 
Seem to remember she’s spent ~$3m on her defence. Bit of a waste of dough, but guess she won’t need much now, there’s a limit as to how much commissary you’re allowed.

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Perhaps she didn't waste her time whilst avoiding detection in hiding pulling in in a few cash favors from the rich and famous she "helped" in the past when she took the tin foil off her mobile phone :hmm:
I had expected to hear more about those people during the trial as it was reported they tracked her down via her data usage
Im a bit pissed that before Epsteins death they said they had so much data from a diary and photos videos etc from his homes etc yet we've heard little about that evidence who were in their visitors or contacts , customers list etc and now may never
Hopefully she will spill some beans or someone else will once appeals over etc I dont know much about the law but can she do that now in appeal etc

Ghislaine Maxwell 'kept a mobile phone wrapped in foil to evade detection by law enforcement'
 
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think that's what's confusing me (and probably a few other people in the UK) - while there are some differences in law round the four countries of the UK, the whole concept of state and federal law / offences is a bit :confused: from a UK perspective...

oversimplified version: the US was originally 13 different countries
this proved too weak, specifically to get the war debt paid down, so the Federalists, the party of the nabobs, twisted some arms and pushed through the Constitution
but "federalism" is still guiding principal
a residue of this is that interstate movement of almost any kind is a federal issue. if maxwell had groomed women who were residents of NYS, to be transported within NYS, to be exploited within NYS, it would be in the first instance a State Police matter. State Police tend to be a combination of highway patrol and a bureau of detectives
 
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Not a suitable person? Gary Glitter would have been more suitable! How on earth did that happen? Very much gives the appearance that the UK state broadcaster was trying to assist in destroying the credibility of a victim of child sexual abuse who is accusing a senior British Royal of committing that abuse.
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Not a suitable person? Gary Glitter would have been more suitable! How on earth did that happen? Very much gives the appearance that the UK state broadcaster was trying to assist in destroying the credibility of a victim of child sexual abuse who is accusing a senior British Royal of committing that abuse.
They will stop at nothing to defend the royals.
 
I do wonder why Rachel Johnson chose to make a link between maxwell and her brother? 'Mischievous' at the very least.
 
It’s just the arrogance of these fuckers. That Maxwell has a French passport, she was missing for months, could easily have slipped away to France and settled in next door to Polanski, drinking Bandol for the rest of her days, but she was arrogant enough to hide in the US, thinking her privilege would somehow protect her. Wonder if a cheeky Bandol will accompany her meal in the Metropolitan Detention Center tonight?
 
It’s just the arrogance of these fuckers. That Maxwell has a French passport, she was missing for months, could easily have slipped away to France and settled in next door to Polanski, drinking Bandol for the rest of her days, but she was arrogant enough to hide in the US, thinking her privilege would somehow protect her. Wonder if a cheeky Bandol will accompany her meal in the Metropolitan Detention Center tonight?
Wondered about that myself last night. Without looking it up, I think she spent a couple of years hiding in the States pre arrest, obviously having access to massive amounts of money. Could easily have fashioned some kind of escape particularly as, I assume, she already had people helping her avoid detection (actively or passively).
 
I would imagine HWCS lawyer's must be sweating (especially since he can't) a bit about what sort of deal might get struck to give her a lighter sentence. His trial starts next week and if a deal is struck where she has dirt on him it might very well come out in the middle of his trial.
 
I would imagine HWCS lawyer's must be sweating (especially since he can't) a bit about what sort of deal might get struck to give her a lighter sentence. His trial starts next week and if a deal is struck where she has dirt on him it might very well come out in the middle of his trial.
I've no idea how these things work, but haven't they already listed who will provide evidence in the case?
 
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Wondered about that myself last night. Without looking it up, I think she spent a couple of years hiding in the States pre arrest, obviously having access to massive amounts of money. Could easily have fashioned some kind of escape particularly as, I assume, she already had people helping her avoid detection (actively or passively).


Was in New Hampshire, she could have walked in to Canada and with her French passport wafted to freedom.
 
Was in New Hampshire, she could have walked in to Canada and with her French passport wafted to freedom.

Town and Country has the angle


but do french passports have special value in quebec?
(and tbh walking from bradford to canada would be quite a trek. i see what you mean of course.)
 
Would imagine fluent French and French passport in Quebec would help one blend in, allowing for an easy PJ out of there to France. Or leg it to St Pierre and Miquelon, bit rough there but better than Federal Penitentiary…
 
From what I remember she slowly slipped from view and whilst she was sending the odd message didn't have a public address. In practice it was probably a case of the frog in the slowly heating pan of water. Thought she wouldn't get prosecuted... thought she's have a good defence if she was... didn't fancy the life on the run... thought she could do a runner at some later date... then got the knock on the door. :)
 
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