Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[ska invita]

It's a damning indictment of the DfE that so many kids leave school with naff all learned, doss around for a bit, drift in to the forces and discover they are not thick as they were told by school, thickos don't service helicopters, fix tanks, lead troops on night hikes over rough terrain. It is the saviour of many youngsters in this country, regardless of how many people the same politicos who fucked up the education system demand it goes and kills elsewhere. Ire, as always needs aiming at Westminster.

anecdotes: my old neighbour dropped out of school 16 with sod all qualifications, was in Northern Ireland by 18, back home by 21 having been bullied and abused to fuck
luckily i dont think he got around to any state murdering

(*precise ages may vary, but not by much)

 

[Serge Forward]

Lad I was at school with went into the army from school. I bumped into him a few years later and he was bragging all about giving "the paddies" a hard time. Funnily enough, when younger, he was a nice lad and never really came across as someone who'd later become a massive cunt, but I guessed the army probably does things to people.

Anyway, I told him, best pretend I don't exist anymore because he was fucking dead to me.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It is the saviour of many youngsters in this country.

Them as make it back with all their limbs anyway. And who don't end up homeless addicts thanks to unaddressed PTSD. If that's salvation I'd sooner remain unsaved.

As for the DfE, gives schools a fraction of the money currently pissed away on military tat and see how many kids are still leaving school functionally illiterate.

 

[brogdale]

That's some indictment of the neoliberal economy that becoming a professional killer for the state is the only salvation for our youth.

 

[SpookyFrank]

That's some indictment of the neoliberal economy that becoming a professional killer for the state is the only salvation for our youth.

They play it up too, those army cunts. They'll go out and look for desperate people. Self respect? We've got self respect for you right here. A sense of belonging? It's mandatory here in the army.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's some indictment of the neoliberal economy that becoming a professional killer for the state is the only salvation for our youth.

so many of them prefer the amateur path, doing it for the sheer love of the sport

 

[brogdale]

They play it up too, those army cunts. They'll go out and look for desperate people. Self respect? We've got self respect for you right here. A sense of belonging? It's mandatory here in the army.

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innit?

Born in Blyth...

 

[Yossarian]

The only Falklands veteran I know hanged himself 14 years after the war, the military definitely wasn't his saviour.

 

[TopCat]

Was HMS Sheffield not sunk with horrendous loss of life to protect the nonce cunt?

 

[1927]

Any chance of getting back on topic and having this discussion elsewhere?

 

[Serge Forward]

Any chance of getting back on topic and having this discussion elsewhere?

How unpatriotic! No respect for The Regiment

 

[equationgirl]

I had a friend of the family growing up who had been a para in the Falklands. He was dyslexic and had been told he wouldn't amount to much. I knew him from when I was about 6 or 7 until he dies. He was a kind and gentle man who ended up becoming a teacher who worked with kids much like himself.

Much loved, much missed.

 

[TopCat]

I had a friend of the family growing up who had been a para in the Falklands. He was dyslexic and had been told he wouldn't amount to much. I knew him from when I was about 6 or 7 until he dies. He was a kind and gentle man who ended up becoming a teacher who worked with kids much like himself.

Much loved, much missed.

No disrespect but a kind and gentle Para? Really?

 

[equationgirl]

No disrespect but a kind and gentle Para? Really?

Yes. He was to me. He would never speak about what he saw over there. Think he got a medical discharge due to breaking his ankle on a landing.

I get what you're saying though. He was likely an exception not the rule.

 

[TopCat]

Yes. He was to me. He would never speak about what he saw over there. Think he got a medical discharge due to breaking his ankle on a landing.

I get what you're saying though. He was likely an exception not the rule.

He was gentle and kind to you. I bet many were like this. But they were selected and trained for murderous aggression and that’s what they did as their full time job.

 

[Wilf]

I know there are several more pages I haven’t read yet. But if this is what his lawyers think. Why don’t they want to you know have it opened and read. Why just presume it might say that but we don’t want you to open it to check.

Because I suspect it was drawn tighter than you suggest. And it offers him no such indemnity. Also how in forcible with such a broad agreement be anyway. Rhetorical question. I know what I think is the truth of the matter.

Well, you are in for a treat!

 

[Chilli.s]

and that’s what they did as their full time job

Started out as adventure camping with gun turned into trained murderous aggression ended up with ptsd and suicide.

The only para I knew in any meaningful way deserted on return to the UK from active service in Falklands, got a discharge, sat in his garage for months, ended badly

 

[AmateurAgitator]

One of blokes who lives in my building brags that he used to be in the army. He's an utter cunt and is one of those people that makes it obvious that he is. I have nothing to do with him and never will. And he's just the sort of rough, thick-skinned type who would choose to join up and would have no problem killing complete strangers for the ruling class, I don't doubt that for a second.

No malice or offence intended Likesfish, or anyone else who was in the military.

 

[Wilf]

innit?

Born in Blyth...

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I fucking hate that advert. Deeply offensive to specific towns and even more so to parents and families of recruits.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

The only Falklands veteran I know hanged himself 14 years after the war, the military definitely wasn't his saviour.

My other half's ex was in the army in Northern Ireland. Saw his mate get blown into body parts, that then had to be collected. He saw the reality of it and regretted joining the army. He knew him and his mates were not welcome in Northern Ireland, which was the opposite of what he was told. My other half also had a friend whose husband served in the Falklands, he killed himself by connecting himself up to the car exhaust in the garage. They know the truth.

My other half also knew a bloke from Fiji years ago who was conned into joining the paras. It was considered prestigious to join the British army in Fiji and his other half pressured him to do so. Britain was not at all what he was told it was and I think he also regretted joining up and moving here. The culture of this place was very different to Fiji and I was told that he was very much a fish out of water.

 

[Sue]

One of the Scottish regiments used to recruit very heavily from my town -- there was a permanent army recruiting office in what was a not very big place. Quite a lot of people I was at school with joined up -- always at 16, generally troubled, many of them not very smart. Some of them didn't make it through basic training, others did and became more disciplined (to use the vernacular of the time) nutters.

One (who was very scary indeed, people were surprised the army took him ) nearly got kicked out because he pulled a ridiculous stunt when he was on leave and broke his leg (the school friend he was with was very badly hurt).

 

[Serge Forward]

I know all the above comments ar a detour from the topic of His Royal Nonceness but there are some interesting comments and it would be good to see them in their own thread (if there's not one already). Over the last couple of decades, I think there has been an increase in the militarisation of daily life, often coupled with the trend towards mandatory poppy wearing and poppies 365 days of the year.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I know all the above comments ar a detour from the topic of His Royal Nonceness but there are some interesting comments and it would be good to see them in their own thread (if there's not one already). Over the last couple of decades, I think there has been an increase in the militarisation of daily life, often coupled with the trend towards mandatory poppy wearing and poppies 365 days of the year.

What would be a good title for such a thread and where would it go?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I know all the above comments ar a detour from the topic of His Royal Nonceness but there are some interesting comments and it would be good to see them in their own thread (if there's not one already). Over the last couple of decades, I think there has been an increase in the militarisation of daily life, often coupled with the trend towards mandatory poppy wearing and poppies 365 days of the year.

366 days a year, 367 on leap years, anything less then you are a MONSTER

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

What would be a good title for such a thread and where would it go?

"Has anyone ever served in the military and not topped themselves?"

 

[MickiQ]

My father in law served 20+ years in the RN, he loved it (possibly because he met no royals during that time). Give him half a chance and he'll bore us witless. I know several former soldiers mostly of the ex Falklands or 1st Gulf War era and none of them have ever expressed any regret as far as I know. (granted they've all come home in one piece which may colour their views)

 

[Pickman's model]

Over the last couple of decades, I think there has been an increase in the militarisation of daily life, often coupled with the trend towards mandatory poppy wearing and poppies 365 days of the year.

yeh there's armed forces day, which ought to involve a great procession of military might past the london equivalent of red square or tiananmen square with all sorts of weapons of mass destruction. but instead seems to involve parades in places like cleethorpes. perhaps there simply aren't the number of soldiers these days to make such a parade in london larger than a blink and you've missed it thing. and militarisation evident calling in the troops when there are firefighters' strikes, floods or jubilees or shortages of lorry drivers

 

[SpookyFrank]

yeh there's armed forces day, which ought to involve a great procession of military might past the london equivalent of red square or tiananmen square with all sorts of weapons of mass destruction. but instead seems to involve parades in places like cleethorpes. perhaps there simply aren't the number of soldiers these days to make such a parade in london larger than a blink and you've missed it thing. and militarisation evident calling in the troops when there are firefighters' strikes, floods or jubilees or shortages of lorry drivers

If the Russians ever invade Cleethorpes though, they'll regret it.

And then the army will show up.

 

[dessiato]

My only regret is that I left. My father loved his time in the RAF as a medic, he regretted leaving.

 

[Pickman's model]

My only regret is that I left. My father loved his time in the RAF as a medic, he regretted leaving.

have you ever been to the raf association place in cleethorpes?