Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[SpookyFrank]

I still can’t see how the nonce cunt can claim he is protected by the previous agreement unless he admits to being a lying rapist.

Precisely why he wants to hide behind the agreement without anyone actually reading it.

 

[moochedit]

I don't think he or his lawyers know what's in the previous agreement which is why I think they want to see it in private. It's a bit of a Schrodinger's Cat agreement at the moment since it might both incriminate and indemify him at the moment.

Some not very reliable googling suggests he (or his brief) has until either 3pm or 5pm (hard to tell which) to do it. They might have done so for all we know, I can't imagine the court is going to make it public and his briefs probably won't want it to be.

Is that uk time or one of the usa time zones?

 

[MickiQ]

Is that uk time or one of the usa time zones?

EDT New York Time so either 2000 or 2200 BST
The article I found said 3pm if handed in or 5pm if put in a dispatch box and stamped with the time and I'm not sure how something can be stamped with time unless it gets handed to someone to do the stamping

 

[TopCat]

Precisely why he wants to hide behind the agreement without anyone actually reading it.

He has to be the most entitled but deluded cunt evah.

 

[weltweit]

Presumably this case is being held in the US because one of the crimes took place there. And that is Andrew's out because he can't be forced to be there.

One of the crimes happened in London though, what about if a case was brought here, could Andrew still escape being at the trial?

 

[steveseagull]

I am pretty sure the EU have an extradition agreement with the US and would quite happily ship a Royal nonce off to the US so I suspect there will not be many places he can visit on our doorstep

 

[Pickman's model]

Presumably this case is being held in the US because one of the crimes took place there. And that is Andrew's out because he can't be forced to be there.

One of the crimes happened in London though, what about if a case was brought here, could Andrew still escape being at the trial?

Yes. He can escape any legal difficulties by the simple means of doing away with himself

 

[Raheem]

I am pretty sure the EU have an extradition agreement with the US and would quite happily ship a Royal nonce off to the US so I suspect there will not be many places he can visit on our doorstep

Think this is all correct, except this is a civil trial, so he can't be extradited.

 

[Pickman's model]

Think this is all correct, except this is a civil trial, so he can't be extradited.

Surely he can be rendered

 

[Saul Goodman]

Surely he can be rendered

Pebbledashing would be a better look.

 

[Serge Forward]

Surely he can be rendered

Or rendered down into dripping.

Edit: Though I suspect lizard dripping isn't very nice.

 

[scalyboy]

Surely he can be rendered

Rendered into penguin feed? A nutritious supplement to help them through the cold. Just add sweat

 

[Pickman's model]

Rendered into penguin feed? A nutritious supplement to help them through the cold. Just add sweat

I was thinking of being kidnapped and delivered into the hands of more repressive regimes

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It's like the grimmest episode of Celebrity Deal Or No Deal ever

They should dig up Edmonds’s corpse and animatronic him to preside over things.

 

[Saul Goodman]

They should dig up Edmonds’s corpse and animatronic him to preside over things.

Is he dead? Or is it wishful thinking?

 

[1927]

Can someone please explain to me why his legal team wanted the agreement unsealed and now they don’t?

 

[moochedit]

Can someone please explain to me why his legal team wanted the agreement unsealed and now they don’t?

They obviously didn't like what it said. who knows exactly what they didn't like about it though.

 

[moochedit]

Is he dead? Or is it wishful thinking?

His wiki says "is" not "was" so i think he still has a pulse.

 

[Saul Goodman]

His wiki says "is" not "was" so i think he still has a pulse.

 

[Raheem]

Rendered into penguin feed? A nutritious supplement to help them through the cold. Just add sweat

I was thinking of being kidnapped and delivered into the hands of more repressive regimes

 

[DaveCinzano]

Can someone please explain to me why his legal team wanted the agreement unsealed and now they don’t?

 

[Athos]

Can someone please explain to me why his legal team wanted the agreement unsealed and now they don’t?

Because it's subject to a protective order in other proceedings, which means Andrew can only file it in these proceedings - which he wants to because he claims it bars her from claiming against him - if the judge allows it to be kept under seal. The judge has done so, but strongly advised the parties to to apply to the judge in the other proceedings to allow it to be made public (which both parties say they have no issue with).

 

[1927]

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Very useful. Not!

 

[moochedit]

EDT New York Time so either 2000 or 2200 BST
The article I found said 3pm if handed in or 5pm if put in a dispatch box and stamped with the time and I'm not sure how something can be stamped with time unless it gets handed to someone to do the stamping

So we are past 10pm any developments?

 

[Athos]

So we are past 10pm any developments?

Looks like he filed something asking for her claim to be kicked out (or, in the alternative, to provide more detail).

Prince Andrew 'unequivocally' denies Giuffre's sexual abuse claims, seeks to end lawsuit

Britain's Prince Andrew on Friday rejected Virginia Giuffre's accusations that he sexually abused her more than two decades ago when she was 17, and urged a U.S. judge to dismiss her civil lawsuit.

www.reuters.com

 

[Wilf]

It's like the grimmest episode of Celebrity Deal Or No Deal ever

I wonder if celebrity nonces have a circle of celebrity nonce supporters when they have to make these difficult decisions? 'Stay strong babes, you always were the leader of the pack, love Gary'.

 

[Raheem]

I've only read that one article linked, but it sounds like Andrew's new argument is "So she alleges I sexually abused her multiple times when she was a trafficked minor? Is that it?!? Where's the beef?"

 

[equationgirl]

I've only read that one article linked, but it sounds like Andrew's new argument is "So she alleges I sexually abused her multiple times when she was a trafficked minor? Is that it?!? Where's the beef?"

If that's his argument I feel it rather wafer thin on substance.

 

[Athos]

I've only read that one article linked, but it sounds like Andrew's new argument is "So she alleges I sexually abused her multiple times when she was a trafficked minor? Is that it?!? Where's the beef?"

Without seeing it, it's hard to know exactly what he's saying, but this gives you some idea of the possibilities.

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Given he's asked for more details, I'm guessing he's saying she's not provided enough facts to make out a prima facie case against him. Probably a tactic to get her to commit to more detail, in the hope that some of it is likely to be provably inaccurate (because of the passage of time), which he'll exploit to undermine her.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Without seeing it, it's hard to know exactly what he's saying, but this gives you some idea of the possibilities.

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FRCP Rule 12(b)(6) is one of the most important topics in civil procedure, and one of the most discussed on law school exams.

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Given he's asked for more details, I'm guessing he's saying she's not provided enough facts to make out a prima facie case against him. Probably a tactic to get her to commit to more detail, in the hope that some of it is likely to be provably inaccurate (because of the passage of time), which he'll exploit to undermine her.

This would be his stumbling block.

Practically speaking, the judge would usually give the plaintiff leave to amend if a legal cause of action was apparent from the facts

Because its apparent to any fule that he's a sweaty nonce.