Orang Utan
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Didn’t Paul McCartney sing ‘Give the Falklands back to the penguins’?
That's still very light on detail. Point being they weren't "taken over" and most of the world was being claimed at that point by the Brits, French, Portugese, Dutch, Spanish, etc. It's not about whether that was good or bad but rather whether Argentina (a nation that didn't exist when they were first settled, and itself built on conquest and genocide) had/has a greater claim over them then the Brits or French.Wikipedia was not my source ..
Their own historic site was.
That's still very light on detail. Point being they weren't "taken over" and most of the world was being claimed at that point by the Brits, French, Portugese, Dutch, Spanish, etc. It's not about whether that was good or bad but rather whether Argentina (a nation that didn't exist when they were first settled) had/has a greater claim over them then the Brits or French.
When will people accept that the British Empire was a land grabbing shower of cunts?
There actually were Spanish speaking people on the Falklands in the 16tg and 17th century who had been living there. They were from "Argentina"
They were "moved"... as is always the case when Empires invade.
Typically it was the British empire taking over an island for purely strategic military reasons ...
It's typical of the British Empire. Sure.
They were miserable cunts.
The fact that some people living there are British doesn't take from the fact that the island was basically comandeered by the Brits and ..the Spanish and French. And the Brits kicked the French and Spanish out.
The islands are linked to issues related to Antarctica. So its really strategic for the British who will probably never give it back to Argentina.
If you think not being OK with shooting teenage conscripts is the same as praising the dictator in the country they hail from then surely your logic would be considered regressive by the standards of many English conscripts back in 1914.Yep. Condemn the kids who went to fight the invaders, not the dictator who caused the invasion. Twit.
If you think not being OK with shooting teenage conscripts is the same as praising the dictator in the country they hail from ...
How? ElaborateInaccurate.
Well read it. Who said anything about praise?How? Elaborate
I hope you don't mean meAh, another evening of conservatrarian entertainment.
OK well "not condemning" thenWell read it. Who said anything about praise?
I hope you don't mean me
I never know with that dude he's all over the place tbhPretty sure he didn't!
A lot of people accept that the British Empire was tyranny in action. But I can't change that. I can be appalled by it, but I can't change history.When will people accept that the British Empire was a land grabbing shower of cunts?
There actually were Spanish speaking people on the Falklands in the 16tg and 17th century who had been living there. They were from "Argentina"
They were "moved"... as is always the case when Empires invade.
Typically it was the British empire taking over an island for purely strategic military reasons ...
It's typical of the British Empire. Sure.
They were miserable cunts.
The fact that some people living there are British doesn't take from the fact that the island was basically comandeered by the Brits and ..the Spanish and French. And the Brits kicked the French and Spanish out.
The islands are linked to issues related to Antarctica. So its really strategic for the British who will probably never give it back to Argentina.
I'll try again Spy. You called the conscripts "invaders" but surely this isn't the case, they are conscripts. Fighting a war they didn't choose to be involved in.If you think not being OK with shooting teenage conscripts is the same as praising the dictator in the country they hail from then surely your logic would be considered regressive by the standards of many English conscripts back in 1914.
So do you'd sooner blame the defending/liberating forces for their deaths than the fascist regime that sent them there for their own political aims in the first place? Is that wise?I'll try again Spy. You called the conscripts "invaders" but surely this isn't the case, they are conscripts. Fighting a war they didn't choose to be involved in.
No that's not what I'm saying at all. But you know that right? I'm sure you do.So do you'd sooner blame the defending/liberating forces for their deaths than the fascist regime that sent them there for their own political aims in the first place?
Is that wise?
About what?No that's not what I'm saying at all. But you know that right? I'm sure you do.
I seen your edit and I raise.it with " i can't be arsed"About what?
The "conscripts" thing is a red herring. Should a conscripted army be allowed to commit genocide, for example?
Goodnight dude.I seen your edit and I raise.it with " i can't be arsed"
Goodnight Spy and goodnight all!
I genuinely thought he was referring to Thatcher, not GaltieriIf you think not being OK with shooting teenage conscripts is the same as praising the dictator in the country they hail from then surely your logic would be considered regressive by the standards of many English conscripts back in 1914.
i'm blaming thatcher for sending them there in the first place just to boost her popularitySo do you'd sooner blame the defending/liberating forces for their deaths than the fascist regime that sent them there for their own political aims in the first place? Is that wise?
tbh, it wasn't just for that; it was also to make good for the tory diplomatic failure that precipitated the Argentinian invasion. As the tories tend to do, they turned a threat into an 'opportunity'.i'm blaming thatcher for sending them there in the first place just to boost her popularity
That was a reaction to a land grab by the other fascist. Why blame her and not him?i'm blaming thatcher for sending them there in the first place just to boost her popularity
I genuinely thought he was referring to Thatcher, not Galtieri
The diplomatic failings went back through successive governments, probably into the 50s.tbh, it wasn't just for that; it was also to make good for the tory diplomatic failure that precipitated the Argentinian invasion. As the tories tend to do, they turned a threat into an 'opportunity'.
who said i was? can you not read?The irony of your position is that had you lived under Galtieri’s regime you would have been in the first cohort to show off your high diving skills in to the River Plate.
By all means slag off Thatcher but don’t do it at the expense of sparing murderous cunt dictators.