Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Border Reiver]

You're confusing popular with democratic.

Do explain the difference...

 

[Border Reiver]

Really? Which part of my post was not factual?

Most of it was opinion. Fact is decided by groups, not individuals.

 

[Knotted]

Do explain the difference...

Democracy is process. Popular is just popular opinion. In a democracy you get a chance to air your views, to campaign for your side and win people over. Eg. with Brexit, popular opinion seemed to be against it until it was put to the democratic test.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Most of it was opinion. Fact is decided by groups, not individuals.

Well this group has decided that you're full of shit.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Most of it was opinion. Fact is decided by groups, not individuals.

Can you point out the parts which are not factual please?

 

[Storm Fox]

It is undemocratic to ignore the rather embarrassing fact of high democratic support for the monarchy and distrust of a presidential system.

It's going to be interesting in relation to the demographic mandate when The Queen does pass on. Whether the support for Charles will be there, or if he abdicates (Very Unlikely) and William becomes King.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Ha! Got my ignore in first. What a boring cunt

 

[Border Reiver]

Can you point out the parts which are not factual please?

The whole institution is just fucking bizarre. PERSONAL OPINION
Because of accidents of birth, ACT OF PARLIAMENT
a family live in ridiculous luxury with the rest of the country MANY RICHER PEOPLE
supposed to bow and scrape to them. CHOUICE, NOT COMPULSORY
They do no work, they have no purpose. PERSONAL OPINION
They turn up at events where they are treated like gods, CHOICE NOT COMPULSORY
they occasionally make a speech, and certain sycophantic idiots consider that to be "work". OPINION
The queen is widely praised for her life of duty - ACTUALLY FACT!!!!
but what duty? PETSONAL OPINION
What has she actually done? PERSONAL OPINION
What difference has she made to anything? PERSONAL OPINION
And she manages to look as miserable as sin all the time, PETSONAL OPINION
while living in the lap of luxury at the expense of us drones. PERSONAL OPINION

 

[Knotted]

You have to admit, those are some pretty good personal opinions.

 

[klang]

So you think that the democratic will should be ignored?

errrr, yes?

 

[Border Reiver]

It's going to be interesting in relation to the demographic mandate when The Queen does pass on. Whether the support for Charles will be there, or if he abdicates (Very Unlikely) and William becomes King.

So long as there is moderate support for the monarchy and fear of a politicised presidency, a republic is almost impossible to attain. There are bigger fish to fry.

 

[klang]

surely it's not a personal opinion that she looks miserable all the time.

 

[souljacker]

It is undemocratic to ignore the rather embarrassing fact of high democratic support for the monarchy and distrust of a presidential system.

It's undemocratic to have a head of state who is in that position because her dad fucked her mum.

 

[Border Reiver]

errrr, yes?

Fine. Unfortunately for you that is most unlikely to happen; in this matter. conservatism is overwhelming.

 

[seeformiles]

He'll be Admiral Andy at the funeral. He's been stamping his foot
Prince Andrew to wear military attire for Prince Philip's funeral

I reckon he’s hoping this funeral will mean some sort of PR rehabilitation - the pathetic deluded twat.

 

[Border Reiver]

It's undemocratic to have a head of state who is in that position because her dad fucked her mum.

You don't understand words, do you?

 

[Border Reiver]

You have to admit, those are some pretty good personal opinions.

But not facts

 

[klang]

Fine. Unfortunately for you that is most unlikely to happen; in this matter. conservatism is overwhelming.

shame

 

[souljacker]

You don't understand words, do you?

Not the ones you write, no.

 

[Border Reiver]

shame

I am no supporter of monarchy but I do respect enduring public opinion.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Surely Pizza Express (By Royal Appointment) of all places will close as a mark of respect.

I am led to understand that a condition of Pizza Express' Royal Warrant is that one branch is kept open 24/7, in case any other royal paedophiles need a ludicrous alibi.

 

[Border Reiver]

Not the ones you write, no.

The words you misuse. Yes.

 

[souljacker]

The words you misuse. Yes.

Get to the point dickhead

 

[Knotted]

But not facts

This is a politics forum and politics is usually about changing things. So people state political opinion rather than just observe how things are.

Certainly around here there are people who are very dedicated to changing things, and if you're just interested in stating how things are you're not going to get on well here.

If you have reasons for keeping the monarchy beyond a belief that it's hopeless to try to get rid of it, then you should make your argument. That would be normal political, democratic discourse. In a functioning democracy minority views are still to be taken seriously.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

But not facts

They ARE facts. They live in luxury - fact. At our expense- fact. They don't work - fact. They get treated like gods - fact. The queen looks miserable - fact.

 

[Serge Forward]

I am no supporter of monarchy but I do respect enduring public opinion.

So if public opinion believed that all foreigners, leftists, rebellious types, etc should be publicly executed, you'd respect that? Is there no separating right from wrong, justice from injustice, in your worldview, or is it all just a numbers game?

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Get to the point dickhead

The point is just to rile everyone up, as far as I can see, and it seems to be working on more and more threads.

 

[Border Reiver]

This is a politics forum and politics is usually about changing things. So people state political opinion rather than just observe how things are.

Certainly around here there are people who are very dedicated to changing things, and if you're just interested in stating how things are you're not going to get on well here.

If you have reasons for keeping the monarchy beyond a belief that it's hopeless to try to get rid of it, then you should make your argument. That would be normal political, democratic discourse. In a functioning democracy minority views are still to be taken seriously.

I am interested in the achievable.

 

[Knotted]

I am interested in the achievable.

Yeah, you're not going to get on well here.

 

[Athos]

I am a twat.