Border Reiver
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Within bounds of agreed international human rights, yes.
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bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
Edward
what fucking incredibly low bar you have setI ‘d be interested to know who is advising these lizards. Patently they must be ultra posh inbred scum just to get near the royals
queenie must be losing her mind now, charles is so tone deaf to reality he needs a steer. The rest are just hanging on as either “gooduns” or “villains”
who sits down and talks strategically about the royals future with them, who steers this fucking lame donkey family.
Border Reiver
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So much effort put into personal observations rather than debate.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
this looks factual to me, you puffed up windbag
Border Reiver
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As I said.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that's a personal observation, and you seem to spend rather a lot of your time here engaged in personal observations rather than debate.
Personal observations are part of the debate. That's perfectly normal.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
So you respect the opinion about you that Urbanites hold?
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
My brother's nephew - he's quite naughty and finds it hard to sit still
Btw, getting rid of the monarchy is perfectly achievable. Very probably won't happen as along as Liz is still on the throne, but that can't be for much longer. On Urban we talk about far more difficult things to achieve than a bit of constitutional reform.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
You do realise that "agreed international human rights" is a minimal standard. Governments (including the UK government) continually duck under this extremely low bar. How about aspirational standards for society as a whole? Or maybe you just prefer lowest common denominators - love the queen, read the Daily Mail, vote SNP/Labour/Tory/Lib Dem.
Do you actually have any friends here? Do you actually get on with anyone here? If not I fail to see why you insist on contuning to turn up.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
To see how far these cunts have gone, back in 2009 there was a shock when Charles' harpist turned out to be a burgling smackhead and polite society was all in a tizzy that such a person could get so close to the prince of Wales. What seemed to leave no one fucking agog is that Charles has a harpist. What, 30-40 grand a year to have someone twang a harp as you waft past, in a world where some people die every day of starvation as they are too poor to buy food.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
The Queen has her own bagpiper too
Piper to the Sovereign - Wikipedia
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It is utterly immoral, especially as it is these very people and their vile ancestors that have caused so much poverty around the globe in the first place.
Border Reiver
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She claimed they were facts, denying it was opinion
Border Reiver
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The European Convention is pretty enforcible.
Border Reiver
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Silly as well as relying on opinion as fact.
There isn't a hard line between facts and opinions. (And that's a fact in my opinion.)
Talking about achievability, I'm not sure what you hope to achieve here. You're not going to change an opinion by pointing out that it's an opinion.
Border Reiver
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I have nothing invested in the monarchy (I think an independent Scotland would deal with
the matter differently as she/he has no effective lower over Scottish law)
But how would it happen. Please describe the process
Border Reiver
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Fact and opinion differ greatly. If you do not understand the words, don't expect to be taken seriously.
Border Reiver
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She claimed they were facts.
Popular opinion turns against the monarchy, government under pressure offers a referendum and republicans win it. Much like Brexit. We may even see a Republican Party applying voting pressure in a similar way UKIP did, and I would suggest that a large part of the reason the public tend to favour the monarchy is lack of exposure to republican arguments.
I don't see it happening in the immediate, but I would be surprised if it doesn't happen in the next 20 years. I mean come on, just look at the state of it.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
They were.
The concepts are distinct enough, but in practice you may have a certain amount of evidence to back up your opinion. And that's why people discuss opinions. Pointing out that an opinion is an opinion is effectively just sticking your fingers in your ears.
Yeah, I think it's best if you get over that.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
And how enforceable it is, is open to debate. To say any government observes the ECHR is not saying much either, as it sets human rights at a very low bar, basic, or the best you can get with a bunch of merciless governments. Are ECHR minimum standards the best you can offer?
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Enforcement was quite strict at Guantanamo bay, I hear, although not in Europe.
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