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Post-exit immigration policy - what should it be?

Odd to hear 'progressive' and 'points-based' in the same sentence. 'points-based' means 'rich or educated at someone else's expense, preferably both, otherwise fuck off'. There is nothing progressive about that. A lottery would be more progressive than that.
Theres another scale to this, at the bottom end. For example farmers were recently reassured by Leadsome that they will still be getting their cheap eastern european labour once free movement ends, though this time with no pesky UK rights, or any chance of integrating into society.
Pick potatoes, get back in your portacabin, then fuck off back to where you came from. Its going to do wonders for reducing xenophobia, im sure.
 
Other EU states are looking at UK GDP and licking their lips. That could be big stuff like service industries (~80pc of UK economy iirc) or it could be SMEs or it could be individuals...

Just a quick question. What service industries does the UK have?

Asking as one major service I have seen is actually French, electric supply etc EDF the F stands for france.
 
As for specifics, construction and infrastructure maintenance, IT services, legal and financial services, land and property services, cleaning, transport, social and health care, the list goes on and on.
 
Well, well, well...

EU's chief Brexit negotiator wants "special" ties to the City

The EU's chief Brexit negotiator has indicated signs of a softening his previously hardline stance of the UK's exit from the union, letting slip a desire to allow member states access to the City.

Michel Barnier wants a "special" relationship with London financial powerhouse as part of any Brexit deal, according to unpublished European parliament minutes, according to the Guardian newspaper.
 
As for specifics, construction and infrastructure maintenance, IT services, legal and financial services, land and property services, cleaning, transport, social and health care, the list goes on and on.

Specifics

Typical of most check out which company maintains the Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew. Clue it is a French company not British. Name one British company providing these services abroad.

Financial services? Banks etc at first I thought good for Britain when I first visited Portugal Barclays bank in every town just about only for Barclays to deny it was them. Same logo same colours etc. Now sold to Santander I think. I do not see any othe British banks etc providing financial services in Europe but, maybe just London, I do see foreign banks providing financial services in Britain.

For a lot of the others how many foreign workers are in each such as cleaning etc the list does go on and on.
 
means that systemic risk lodged in a post brexit UK financial insitution should be viewed as european risk rather than soley brit risk- where it could feasibly be in a lesss tighly supervised grey area. i spose
 
Seems like "controlled immigration" is now the official Labour Party position.
 
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How about no immigration for a year and see how we get on.

Whilst most brexiters seem happy to plunder the world for doctors,nurses and scientists((thereby denying half the world skills they need much more than us) as a mature capitalist democracy I think we should grow our own in these areas but allow food processing and fruit picking etc to be done by migrant labour -according to c4 dispatches north korea is happy to supply (to finance their nukes by stealing wages of their migrants).
 
I believe in the basic decency and principle of freedom of movement. Freedom is very unfashionable, it is a thing for traitors and the dreaded metropolitan elite (tm).
 
We tried that. No UK citizen wants to pick veg at a price that allows us to pay we are willing to pay for veg.

That's why this country is fucked, really.

Or to put it less dramatically, that business model is unsustainable. It looks like an imperial model, and at some point we as a nation need to deal with the fact that we aren't the heart of an empire any longer. I'm not sure we've really come to terms with that yet.
 
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