PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[cupid_stunt]

IIRC correctly if he's suspended from the commons for a month, that allows a re-call petition, which I suspect would gain the numbers required to force a by-election, which would be funny as fuck.

I was wrong it's only 10 days, I am going to be clued to Sky News on Wednesday.

Rishi Sunak will give Conservative MPs a free vote on Boris Johnson’s future if the privileges committee finds that he deliberately misled parliament about Downing Street pandemic parties.

Almost a year after the investigation began, Johnson faces a marathon televised hearing on Wednesday afternoon in which he must convince seven MPs that he was not in contempt of the Commons when he denied claims about lockdown rulebreaking.

If the committee finds against Johnson, he may be suspended from the Commons. A suspension of more than ten days would automatically trigger a recall petition, allowing Johnson’s constituents to force a by-election.

Rishi Sunak gives Tories free vote on Boris Johnson’s future

 

[Karl Masks]

I won't be raising my hopes.

 

[Cerv]

Did they miss the part where he's already been sanctioned over partygate? By the police?

no but they've decided that it was on the level of getting a parking fine or littering fine. something trifling.
not like getting sanctioned by parliament for misleading the house which is serious business

 

[brogdale]

I won't be raising my hopes.

Not so sure; I reckon the parliamentary party know they now have to kill the blustercunt story for good; he ain't coming back and is nothing but a ghastly reminder of "party gate" for them.

 

[agricola]

Not so sure; I reckon the parliamentary party know they now have to kill the blustercunt story for good; he ain't coming back and is nothing but a ghastly reminder of "party gate" for them.

TBF partygate is the least bad thing that they could get him for fibbing on; that row he had with Ellwood in November 2021 is far worse both in terms of mendacity and flat-out wrongness.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I saw somewhere that he's the only witness being called. They might as well ask him to bring his own tin of whitewash.

TBH that's all they need to hang him. That and what's already on the public record. Let him choose between sticking to a story we now know was bollocks or change his story and confirm he was lying the first time.

 

[SpookyFrank]

TBF partygate is the least bad thing that they could get him for fibbing on; that row he had with Ellwood in November 2021 is far worse both in terms of mendacity and flat-out wrongness.

Honestly I've forgotten half this stuff. His entire tenure was a constant landslide of scandal and sleaze, it became very draining just to keep track of it all.

 

[agricola]

Honestly I've forgotten half this stuff. His entire tenure was a constant landslide of scandal and sleaze, it became very draining just to keep track of it all.

That one was the boulder of solid excrement tumbling down the hill in the landslide:

 

[Karl Masks]

They may find him guilty but will it lead to anything substantive? The red wall lot may still think they owe him for their electoral success. Then there's the cranks who still think the sun shines out his arse

 

[savoloysam]

Where's Dominic Cummings these days? We're overdue another jack in the box celebrity appearance. Perhaps he's picking his next moment wisely.

 

[hash tag]

Where's Dominic Cummings these days? We're overdue another jack in the box celebrity appearance. Perhaps he's picking his next moment wisely.

He missed his moment immediately prior to Johnson's reselection. Maybe he will pop up during the next election.

 

[savoloysam]

Just what I was thinking.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Assuming it gets to a vote, which I think it will, I also think there's a fair chance of at least 40 Tory MPs voting for his suspension, which with opposition votes, should get it over the line.

 

[two sheds]

Unless Starmer doesn't want to get involved in something that might offend some tory voters.

 

[brogdale]

TBF partygate is the least bad thing that they could get him for fibbing on; that row he had with Ellwood in November 2021 is far worse both in terms of mendacity and flat-out wrongness.

hmm...not so convinced about that; the 'party gate' stuff still has 'cut-through' and the capacity to enrage the wider electorate. I'm not so sure that the army-barmy argument with Ellwood has much wide resonance tbh

 

[brogdale]

Assuming it gets to a vote, which I think it will, I also think there's a fair chance of at least 40 Tory MPs voting for his suspension, which with opposition votes, should get it over the line.

Interesting to speculate on quite how many would vote against Johnson; I think the fact that Sunak appears to have bedded-in, settled the ship and engineered some +ive media reporting weighs against blustercunt; he really is the past they'd rather forget now.

 

[brogdale]

The pressure of the impending hearing looks to be getting to blustercunt...

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Unless Starmer doesn't want to get involved in something that might offend some tory voters.

yes - he might well whip for a principled and forensic abstention...

 

[stavros]

Did they miss the part where he's already been sanctioned over partygate? By the police?

Yes, no one has quite answered why it's taken so long to even start this enquiry, or why there's any debate over the matter. He was fined by the police for attending illegal parties, and didn't appeal; he told the House there had been no parties in Downing Street; ergo he lied.

The only possible claim I can see him making is he didn't know they were illegal, which a decent questioner ought to be prove that that is, in lawyerly terms, bollocks.

 

[stavros]

Where's Dominic Cummings these days? We're overdue another jack in the box celebrity appearance. Perhaps he's picking his next moment wisely.

As far as I'm aware he's still in contempt of Parliament, for failing to attend a Select Committee hearing.

 

[teqniq]

Johnson’s defence against Partygate allegations is absurd

I have struggled to make sense of the claims issued by Boris Johnson overnight that, in his opinion, show that he is innocent of misleading parliament about parties at No 10 during lock downs. His claim appears to be in two parts. The first part is that the committee only thinks...

www.taxresearch.org.uk

I guess it's this that Richard Murphy is alluding to:

Boris Johnson’s ‘bombshell’ that will ‘exonerate him from partygate’

 

[philosophical]

I need to plan Wednesday to include PMQ’s and Johnson being questioned, anybody know how the day will unfold so as to get the exercise and shopping in?

 

[hash tag]

He "accepted" a fine from the police, therefore guilty. He helped make the rules and knows he broke them.
Then he gets us to hire David Pannick to defend him at a cost of how many thousand per hour

 

[Pickman's model]

I need to plan Wednesday to include PMQ’s and Johnson being questioned, anybody know how the day will unfold so as to get the exercise and shopping in?

Yes

 

[Karl Masks]

I need to plan Wednesday to include PMQ’s and Johnson being questioned, anybody know how the day will unfold so as to get the exercise and shopping in?

Morning: Lies
Break for Brunch
Late Morning: Lies
Lunch (deceit on a bed of rocket...and mendacity)
Afternoon: Lies
Dinner
Bed

 

[Pickman's model]

Morning: Lies
Break for Brunch
Late Morning: Lies
Lunch (deceit on a bed of rocket...and mendacity)
Afternoon: Lies
Dinner
Bed

Your schedule doesn't sound so different from johnson's

 

[Serge Forward]

Johnson's would include coke breaks?

 

[Pickman's model]

Johnson's would include coke breaks?

No, they form an integral part of his working day

 

[Dystopiary]

What happens if (hopefully when) he's found to have been in contempt of Parliament? How long does that status last, and does it permit him to stand in a GE in the months and years following?

He seems to be able to get away with a hell of a lot. I think he and some of his colleagues (and their supporters) were emboldened by seeing Trump lie and behave like he did repeatedly, brazenly, and not seem to get held accountable. As much as the tories have always been "the vermin party" boundaries have been crossed beyond anything that's happened before in the past few years.

 

[krtek a houby]

Your schedule doesn't sound so different from johnson's

Sounds awesome