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Excellent.

Now we have 8den convicted of homophobia, and OU/LBJ on trial for bestiality, on a thread that began with everyone joyfully attacking Cameron. Thermidor innit.

It's not that good yet. I for one am working on it though.

Is it still bestiality if the pig is dead? Or do you have evidence of live pig fucking that the rest of us have not seen?
 
On the question of the importance of the story about Cameron's willy and a dead pig...

I can see one way in which it could end up having some political effect - and it's independent of whether the story is true or (as I suspect) made up. Cameron is going to be the enemy of whoever he thinks put this weird bit of gossip in circulation. Obviously Ashcroft and his co-author Isabel Oakeshott are unlikely to be invited round to No 10 for drinks and roast pork, but unless they have lied through their teeth about this, there is some Tory who gave them the story and whoever Cameron thinks it is will pay some sort of price. If that's someone who aspires to lead the Tory Party (BJ has got to be a suspect), that person will have Cameron absolutely determined to stop him. On the other hand, if it's someone in the government, that person can expect to be out of a job soon enough and if it's someone else, that person can expect at the very least not to benefit from government patronage.
 
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On the question of the importance of the story about Cameron's willy and a dead pig...

I can see one way in which it could end up having some political effect - and it's independent of whether the story is true or (as I suspect) made up. Cameron is going to be the enemy of whoever he thinks put this weird bit of gossip in circulation. Obviously Ashcroft and his co-author Isabel Oakeshott are unlikely to be invited round to No 10 for drinks and roast pork, but unless they have lied through their teeth about this, there is some Tory who gave them the story and whoever Cameron thinks it is will pay some sort of price. It that's someone who aspires to lead the Tory Party (BJ has got to be a suspect), that person will have Cameron absolutely determined to stop him. On the other hand, if it's someone in the government, that person can expect to be out of a job soon enough and if it's someone else, that person can expect at the very least not to benefit from government patronage.
Yes, which all makes sense if you see Ashcroft's machinations as part of project Osborne.
 
On the question of the importance of the story about Cameron's willy and a dead pig...

I can see one way in which it could end up having some political effect - and it's independent of whether the story is true or (as I suspect) made up. Cameron is going to be the enemy of whoever he thinks put this weird bit of gossip in circulation. Obviously Ashcroft and his co-author Isabel Oakeshott are unlikely to be invited round to No 10 for drinks and roast pork, but unless they have lied through their teeth about this, there is some Tory who gave them the story and whoever Cameron thinks it is will pay some sort of price. If that's someone who aspires to lead the Tory Party (BJ has got to be a suspect), that person will have Cameron absolutely determined to stop him. On the other hand, if it's someone in the government, that person can expect to be out of a job soon enough and if it's someone else, that person can expect at the very least not to benefit from government patronage.

There are two - the tory mp who told ashcroft and the guy with the photo
 
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Somehow reminds me of an Adam and the Ants gig.
 
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