Two male runners die after Cardiff Half Marathon

[Celyn]

Yep, JHE. That's what I've always thought about marathons. Then again, my brother did things the wrong way round by having a heart attack *then* running marathons.

It's a very good point someone made about comparing it to deaths at festivals.

 

[dylanredefined]

Sounds like a headline for bad drugs at a festival not sport

Wonder what they took is first things come to mind? Anyone can bimble round a half marathon or a marathon with a bit of training if you are looking for a personal best various performance enhancing supplements can put you at risk. Sort of person who would take them is the sort of person who would push themselves to the limit and beyond. Very sad I wonder what the post mortem will show. Either undiagnosed heart problem or something to do with supplements/dehydration. Is my guess.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Considering the sheer numbers of people who take part the safety record of these kinds of events must be pretty bloody good overall. I've done my knees in a couple of times on half marathons but I blame nobody but myself for that.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Poor blokes - very young age to die. But yeah, probably due to underlying health conditions that they may not have even known about.

 

[strung out]

A lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread - the health benefits of long distance running far far outweigh any tiny risk from dying during/after a race.

I've done many, many long distance races, including 46 miles last weekend, and there are occasionally fatalities, as you'd expect from any mass gathering of people, and virtually all of them occur because of previously unknown heart abnormalities or extreme conditions, e.g. heat.

 

[felixthecat]

Is life-long exercise damaging to the heart?

Dunno if people can access this but it cause a bit of a ripple when it was published

 

[Saul Goodman]

A lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread - the health benefits of long distance running far far outweigh any tiny risk from dying during/after a race.

I've done many, many long distance races, including 46 miles last weekend, and there are occasionally fatalities, as you'd expect from any mass gathering of people, and virtually all of them occur because of previously unknown heart abnormalities or extreme conditions, e.g. heat.

 

[William of Walworth]

Phillippides completed the original marathon

"Phillippedes?"

"No, I kept them the same side up"

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

A lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread - the health benefits of long distance running far far outweigh any tiny risk from dying during/after a race.

I've done many, many long distance races, including 46 miles last weekend, and there are occasionally fatalities, as you'd expect from any mass gathering of people, and virtually all of them occur because of previously unknown heart abnormalities or extreme conditions, e.g. heat.

I get what you are saying but it’s not like there’s occasional fatalities at the primary school or shit like that. It’s difficult to know if you have an underlying condition in the first place so the point is undertaken some serious fitness stuff like that should be approached with caution as it puts the body under a lot of stress, so people really do need to go canny with it.
It’s like the people that say cannabis is great for your mental health unless you have a predisposition to schizophrenia(bollocks but that’s for another thread) but having a predisposition to such an illness isn’t the same as actually having it, which is why young boys should defo not wire into the cannabis like it’s gojng out of fashion, cause after the first breakdown it’s pretty hard to ever go back to normal. I expect it works the same with the heart, if you push it, then you are forever more vulnerable to it happening again.

 

[strung out]

I get what you are saying but it’s not like there’s occasional fatalities at the primary school or shit like that. It’s difficult to know if you have an underlying condition in the first place so the point is undertaken some serious fitness stuff like that should be approached with caution as it puts the body under a lot of stress, so people really do need to go canny with it.
It’s like the people that say cannabis is great for your mental health unless you have a predisposition to schizophrenia(bollocks but that’s for another thread) but having a predisposition to such an illness isn’t the same as actually having it, which is why young boys should defo not wire into the cannabis like it’s gojng out of fashion, cause after the first breakdown it’s pretty hard to ever go back to normal. I expect it works the same with the heart, if you push it, then you are forever more vulnerable to it happening again.

People were saying 'if this happened at a festival, people would be asking questions', as if it's somehow the act of running a race or going to a festival that are risky. If you do something that puts stress on the body, then your risk of dying while doing it will be heightened. Running provides so many benefits outside of that though that contribute to long healthy lives, both physically and mentally, that trying to use it as an excuse to somehow not bother with running long distances is completely bonkers.

Be sensible, hydrate, look after your body and know your limits, and running is one of the healthiest, most fulfilling activities around.

 

[strung out]

Probably worth noting, that often it's young fit men who suffer from unexpected issues after races like these. Almost exclusively, it's because young men have increased amounts of bravado and pressure to perform, that means they push their bodies far beyond their limits. Run sensibly, and your chances of having anything like this happen to you are unfathomably miniscule.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

When I first joined the Forces, there was a lad in my platoon who wasn't getting any fitter after the first 4 months, he was labelled lazy & consequently, 'beasted'. Month five he was shipped off to see the MO & was found to have a hole in his heart - could've dropped down dead at anytime during that 4 months. He was MD'd the following day!

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

People were saying 'if this happened at a festival, people would be asking questions', as if it's somehow the act of running a race or going to a festival that are risky. If you do something that puts stress on the body, then your risk of dying while doing it will be heightened. Running provides so many benefits outside of that though that contribute to long healthy lives, both physically and mentally, that trying to use it as an excuse to somehow not bother with running long distances is completely bonkers.

Be sensible, hydrate, look after your body and know your limits, and running is one of the healthiest, most fulfilling activities around.

Can we not have an excuse? Trying running with 14 stones and humongous mammories is reaaaally bloody hard. And the adrenaline plays havoc wi ma anxiety.

 

[TopCat]

Wondering about them collapsing at the end, rather than during.

Happened at the very first marathon so not surprising really. Death, disabilty are inherent risks.

 

[planetgeli]

Be sensible, hydrate, look after your body and know your limits, and taking ecstasy is one of the healthiest, most fulfilling activities around.

FTFY

He was MD'd the following day!

The army give out ecstasy? I’m impressed.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

FTFY



The army give out ecstasy? I’m impressed.

The serotonin high is far more palatable than the adrenaline one too. Feel the love!

 

[nogojones]

People were saying 'if this happened at a festival, people would be asking questions', as if it's somehow the act of running a race or going to a festival that are risky. ......

I was commenting on the general poor reporting of both drug and shock horror deaths in the papers and also the disproportionate response by the police when it comes to deaths at partys/ festivals.

Nothing is risk free, its about putting the risks in perspective and trying to reduce them where possible.

 

[felixthecat]

When I first joined the Forces, there was a lad in my platoon who wasn't getting any fitter after the first 4 months, he was labelled lazy & consequently, 'beasted'. Month five he was shipped off to see the MO & was found to have a hole in his heart - could've dropped down dead at anytime during that 4 months. He was MD'd the following day!

The super fit 37 year old triathlete that I work with (Army PTI) very recently had a stroke due to an undiagnosed hole in the heart. Happened at work - all rather dramatic Absolutely no previous signs and symptoms.

Fucking scary