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New Sky woodworking show The Chop (with added white supremacism)

Even if you take away the fash stuff, it doesn't add up. A tattooist and wood worker with no personal online presence? These are two lines of work where you live or die by being able to get the message out - "look what I did today. Limited availability but call for a sitting / furniture commission. 10% off if you quote FBAdvert2020".

It's blatantly not that he doesn't have an online presence, it's that he's successfully managed to hide it. Ditto his nazi associations - nobody with I Love Adolf on his face has no affiliation or at least dalliance with organised groups, it's that he's successfully hidden it.

This story is funny as fuck in itself, but I don't like what's underneath it.


This guy seems linked to biker gangs and bear in mind the online skillz of yer biker twonk as displayed here... Biker gangs / "patch clubs"
 
It’s not that unusual for carpenters to have zero online presence. Sort of depends how/when they started up. And what kind of work they do.
 
It’s not that unusual for carpenters to have zero online presence. Sort of depends how/when they started up. And what kind of work they do.

If you're a stud walls, skirting boards and doorframes for Barratt Homes kind of carpenter, completely agree. But if you're a one-off commissions, bespoke furniture maker* then surely you're better off with somewhere to showcase your work.

* I don't know that this is what the Nazi Woodman does, but it fits better with the theme of the show than a fella who'd do you an understairs cupboard.
 
yeh one peculiar tat, maybe. maybe. eg 18 may not always be ah. but more and more and a really poor explanation? i think after a while even a sky bullshit detector would kick in

but ime people with extensive facial tattoos often have very strange ideas

many years ago i was on a class war stall at the electric ballroom where conflict were playing. and a punk with a spiderweb tattoo over the whole of his face came up and engaged me in conversation for ten minutes about how he'd love to be an assassin for us. sadly he didn't leave his contact details.
I like to think he was a SDS officer who had gone a bit far with fitting in with the other anarchists at the rougher end of the market.
 
If you're a stud walls, skirting boards and doorframes for Barratt Homes kind of carpenter, completely agree. But if you're a one-off commissions, bespoke furniture maker* then surely you're better off with somewhere to showcase your work.

* I don't know that this is what the Nazi Woodman does, but it fits better with the theme of the show than a fella who'd do you an understairs cupboard.
He claims to have done this: Interaction Case Study | Star Wars Cinema | Millennium Falcon | Bath

Presumably sub contracted by the design agency.
 
If you're a stud walls, skirting boards and doorframes for Barratt Homes kind of carpenter, completely agree. But if you're a one-off commissions, bespoke furniture maker* then surely you're better off with somewhere to showcase your work.

* I don't know that this is what the Nazi Woodman does, but it fits better with the theme of the show than a fella who'd do you an understairs cupboard.

I used to work above a guy who does some of the most high end interiors in London. 7/8 employees, couple of CNC machines... no web presence at all. It’s a bit of a funny one. For some types of work you get very little benefit from it. Particularly for interior fit outs and the like you would rely much more on connections with architects and interior designers. I would say most people I know still rely much more on word of mouth than web presence... that is probably changing a bit now, but yeah.
 
If you're a stud walls, skirting boards and doorframes for Barratt Homes kind of carpenter, completely agree. But if you're a one-off commissions, bespoke furniture maker* then surely you're better off with somewhere to showcase your work.

I’d suggest it’s the other way around. There is often more competition in the former category. I often see adverts on Facebook etc for those types of services. I actually know a few bespoke crafts workers - working with steel and wood. In the case of the former his entire business is built on word of mouth. He doesn’t advertise anywhere. Has got a little lock up in the Jewellery Quarter that’s dead hard to find and he doesn’t even have any social media accounts. The middle class flock to him because their mates have used him and recommend him

Your post appears to be quite snooty by the way. Lots of the workers who build Barratt Homes are also highly skilled
 
I’d suggest it’s the other way around. There is often more competition in the former category. I often see adverts on Facebook etc for those types of services. I actually know a few bespoke crafts workers - working with steel and wood. In the case of the former his entire business is built on word of mouth. He doesn’t advertise anywhere. Has got a little lock up in the Jewellery Quarter that’s dead hard to find and he doesn’t even have any social media accounts. The middle class flock to him because their mates have used him and recommend him

Your post appears to be quite snooty by the way. Lots of the workers who build Barratt Homes are also highly skilled
We are but I know very few that have an online presence for work.
Subbies innit. You work with people over the years who are on different firms or working with other builders and that’s your network.
 
Lots of the workers who build Barratt Homes are also highly skilled
The quality of joinery in the new builds around Exeter has been shocking (there are a lot of new builds round here). I know people who've worked on them and it's all done on the basis of getting as many jobs "complete" as possible. You get a particular stud frame up and move on. The dry-liners follow up as quick as possible, then finishing trim. Any issues or difficulties are swiftly bodged over/hidden/ignored and the next trade does the best they can. There is no paid time to get things right, just get your jobs ticked off in a mad rush to make as many items complete as possible and make it pay.

A crew of plasterers I had in said that on one site they had worked, one contractor had saved money by stuffing rubbish that they had been paid to remove into the wall cavities. The consensus from the people who have worked on them was that they wouldn't touch one with a bargepole and that they are the slums of the future.
 
My dad was painter & decorator in the 60s/70s, worked on a lot of council contracts. He saw the building contractor managers taking councillors out for expensive dinners. Then the contracts specified and charged for primer/undercoat/topcoat but he was told to slap on just the topcoat and move on.

He wrote to local/national papers about it for years with little joy. Eventually he went down the council offices and threw a brick through a window. He was charged with it, pleaded his own case on the basis that it's perfectly allowable to throw a brick through a window to bring attention to a burning building. He got off, remember the day he came back from court :D.

Nothing changed in the business then.
 
My dad was painter & decorator in the 60s/70s, worked on a lot of council contracts. He saw the building contractor managers taking councillors out for expensive dinners. Then the contracts specified and charged for primer/undercoat/topcoat but he was told to slap on just the topcoat and move on.

He wrote to local/national papers about it for years with little joy. Eventually he went down the council offices and threw a brick through a window. He was charged with it, pleaded his own case on the basis that it's perfectly allowable to throw a brick through a window to bring attention to a burning building. He got off, remember the day he came back from court :D.

Nothing changed in the business then.

I swear this is literally a plot point in Ragged Trousered Philanthropists
 
We are but I know very few that have an online presence for work.
Subbies innit. You work with people over the years who are on different firms or working with other builders and that’s your network.

Yeah, agreed. But since lockdown I have noted an increase in workers looking for work/advertising their services. I haven’t notice many bespoke artisans doing the same!
 
The quality of joinery in the new builds around Exeter has been shocking (there are a lot of new builds round here). I know people who've worked on them and it's all done on the basis of getting as many jobs "complete" as possible. You get a particular stud frame up and move on. The dry-liners follow up as quick as possible, then finishing trim. Any issues or difficulties are swiftly bodged over/hidden/ignored and the next trade does the best they can. There is no paid time to get things right, just get your jobs ticked off in a mad rush to make as many items complete as possible and make it pay.

A crew of plasterers I had in said that on one site they had worked, one contractor had saved money by stuffing rubbish that they had been paid to remove into the wall cavities. The consensus from the people who have worked on them was that they wouldn't touch one with a bargepole and that they are the slums of the future.

Yes, heard similar horror stories about the flat and house building programme underway here as well. But these are issues unrelated to the skills and craft of the workers themselves. They will do what they are paid/told to by the contractor.
 
Presume you are referring to the old 'do what thou wilt' shall be the whole of the law' or whatever the deranged half wit said. Always thought that was an odd phrase as if the law is that each individual does whatever they wish that cannot be a law as that term implies a societal or communal approach to rule making.

It was a reference to the old Wiccan Rede 'and it harm none, do what thou wilt' - ditching the 'and it harm none', just Crowley, already a well-known general all-round dickhead desperately striving for pre-internet edgelord status. Probably got him laid a couple of times.

Anyway, enough with the hippy bollocks.
 
It was a reference to the old Wiccan Rede 'and it harm none, do what thou wilt' - ditching the 'and it harm none', just Crowley, already a well-known general all-round dickhead desperately striving for pre-internet edgelord status. Probably got him laid a couple of times.

Anyway, enough with the hippy bollocks.
Except Wicca began in 1954, and Crowley died in 1947, so probably the other way round
 
Yes, heard similar horror stories about the flat and house building programme underway here as well. But these are issues unrelated to the skills and craft of the workers themselves. They will do what they are paid/told to by the contractor.
It's literally uneconomic for trades to do a decent job. And the main contractors don't care if you are good or bad, they just need to hit their targets.
 
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