Papers, please - covid passport bollocks

[littlebabyjesus]

You think it's odd that someone who has been seriously assaulted or raped would be perfectly happy being physically handled during treatment by random males?
If you do I'd suggest you change jobs.

This is someone who claims to have worked for decades as a clinical manager.

Either they're bullshitting or I'm just glad they're now retired.

 

[IC3D]

This is someone who claims to have worked for decades as a clinical manager.

Either they're bullshitting or I'm just glad they're now retired.

It's not what he said though.

 

[Border Reiver]

You think it's odd that someone who has been seriously assaulted or raped would be perfectly happy being physically handled during treatment by random males?
If you do I'd suggest you change jobs.

Sometimes it is just not possible. Often the only doctor out of hours is male. Accommodation is possible but not guaranteed.

 

[Border Reiver]

You think it's odd that someone who has been seriously assaulted or raped would be perfectly happy being physically handled during treatment by random males?
If you do I'd suggest you change jobs.

Do produce evidence that hospital will guarantee only female staff on a unit if you request it. Accommodation will be made but it cannot be guaranteed.

 

[WouldBe]

Do produce evidence that hospital will guarantee only female staff on a unit if you request it. Accommodation will be made but it cannot be guaranteed.

I didn't say there should only be female staff on a unit just that the patient should be able to request treatment by a female member of staff in that situation which I don't think I'd unreasonable.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Newbies nowadays are almost always really weird, and not good weird.

 

[mojo pixy]

... the c5gid vaccine ...

Excuse me?

 

[mojo pixy]

I didn't say there should only be female staff on a unit just that the patient should be able to request treatment by a female member of staff in that situation which I don't think I'd unreasonable.

And they can. Border Reiver has no idea what they're on about, frankly. I think they must be stuck in 1956. Every single claim they've made on this thread is either false, or not worth claiming.

'Many countries' ffs

 

[Border Reiver]

I didn't say there should only be female staff on a unit just that the patient should be able to request treatment by a female member of staff in that situation which I don't think I'd unreasonable.

They can request it. It cannot be guaranteed. It is not a right . The only available clinician may be male.

If you judge otherwise you will have no problem producing a policy which gives an absolute guarantee of no male staff in any circumstances. Reasonable accommodation should be made but there is no absolute guarantee.

 

[Border Reiver]

And they can. Border Reiver has no idea what they're on about, frankly. I think they must be stuck in 1956.

I retired in 2002. My wife retired last December as a senior nurse manager.

If you believe there is such a guarantee, please produce such a policy.

 

[WouldBe]

They can request it. It cannot be guaranteed. It is not a right . The only available clinician may be male.

Most clinical intervention is carried out by nurses who are mostly female.

 

[mojo pixy]

I retired in 2002. My wife retired last December as a senior nurse manager.

If you believe there is such a guarantee, please produce such a policy.

FAQs about your appointment

Can I choose to see a male or female GP?

The NHS Choice Framework: what choices are available to me in the NHS?

Next time, do your own fucking research. Only took ten seconds.

(Edited for moar!!11!)

 

[Pickman's model]

FAQs about your appointment

Next time, do your own fucking research. Only took ten seconds.

on the plus side at least we know - almost certainly - that BoRe is not a banned returner but a new if unamusing poster

 

[mojo pixy]

Like, I've seen posters be wrong here, shit I've been very wrong myself more than once, but this poster is taking all the biscuits just now

It bothers me because this is a very serious subject, not beans /cheese etc. and this fool could do harm.

 

[Border Reiver]

FAQs about your appointment

Can I choose to see a male or female GP?

The NHS Choice Framework: what choices are available to me in the NHS?

Next time, do your own fucking research. Only took ten seconds.

(Edited for moar!!11!)

GP, not hospital. Also practices may have no female GPs and are not required to enjoy one. With a GP you can vote with your feet.

Produce a hospital policy guaranteeing female only treatment on a ward. Of course reasonable accommodation will be made but there is no guarantee.

 

[Border Reiver]

Most clinical intervention is carried out by nurses who are mostly female.

Not always. The senior nurse may be male. In mental health half the staff are male.

 

[Pickman's model]

GP, not hospital. Also practices may have no female GPs and are not required to enjoy one.

 

[Sue]

I retired in 2002. My wife retired last December as a senior nurse manager.

If you believe there is such a guarantee, please produce such a policy.

So your personal experience of this is nearly 20 years out of date?

 

[Border Reiver]

Still waiting for someone to produce a hospital policy guaranteeing female only treatment on a ward. Of course reasonable accommodation will be made but there is no guarantee.

 

[Border Reiver]

FAQs about your appointment

Can I choose to see a male or female GP?

The NHS Choice Framework: what choices are available to me in the NHS?

Next time, do your own fucking research. Only took ten seconds.

(Edited for moar!!11!)

Appointments and bookings at your GP surgery

Find out more about how to book, change and cancel GP appointments, with information about evening and weekend appointments and other services that might be helpful.

www.nhs.uk

 

[mojo pixy]

Still waiting for someone to produce a hospital policy guaranteeing female only treatment on a ward. Of course reasonable accommodation will be made but there is no guarantee.

From the link I posted before (NHS Choices):

The NHS Constitution sets out the NHS commitment to benefiting the whole community, making sure that nobody is excluded, discriminated against or left behind. This means that the individual is at the heart of the NHS and services must be coordinated around and tailored to the needs and preferences of patients, their families and their carers. As a user of the NHS you have the right to receive care and treatment that is appropriate to you, meets your needs and reflects your preferences.

I would say this is as close to a guarantee as you're likely to find. If you want more, I suggest to UN-retire and take some catch up training.

 

[Border Reiver]

FAQs about your appointment

Can I choose to see a male or female GP?

The NHS Choice Framework: what choices are available to me in the NHS?

Next time, do your own fucking research. Only took ten seconds.

(Edited for moar!!11!)

Can I choose to see a male or female GP?
You can ask to see a male or female GP, as long as your surgery has both male and female GPs available.
GPs at your surgery
Most GP surgeries and health centres have male and female GPs. However, a small number of doctors work on their own. You can find out more on our GP services explained page.
If your GP surgery does have both male and female GPs, they will try their best to meet your request. However, this may not always be possible, or you may have to wait longer to see a specific GP.

 

[Border Reiver]

From the link I posted before (NHS Choices):

The NHS Constitution sets out the NHS commitment to benefiting the whole community, making sure that nobody is excluded, discriminated against or left behind. This means that the individual is at the heart of the NHS and services must be coordinated around and tailored to the needs and preferences of patients, their families and their carers. As a user of the NHS you have the right to receive care and treatment that is appropriate to you, meets your needs and reflects your preferences.

That does not guarantee a same sex clinician

For instance

Can I choose to see a male or female GP?
You can ask to see a male or female GP, as long as your surgery has both male and female GPs available.
GPs at your surgery
Most GP surgeries and health centres have male and female GPs. However, a small number of doctors work on their own. You can find out more on our GP services explained page.
If your GP surgery does have both male and female GPs, they will try their best to meet your request. However, this may not always be possible, or you may have to wait longer to see a specific GP.

 

[Border Reiver]

I have shown there is no absolute right to a female GP.

Still waiting for someone to produce a hospital policy guaranteeing female only treatment on a ward. Of course reasonable accommodation will be made but there is no guarantee.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Boring weird now.

 

[Border Reiver]

From the link I posted before (NHS Choices):

The NHS Constitution sets out the NHS commitment to benefiting the whole community, making sure that nobody is excluded, discriminated against or left behind. This means that the individual is at the heart of the NHS and services must be coordinated around and tailored to the needs and preferences of patients, their families and their carers. As a user of the NHS you have the right to receive care and treatment that is appropriate to you, meets your needs and reflects your preferences.

I would say this is as close to a guarantee as you're likely to find. If you want more, I suggest to UN-retire and take some catch up training.

It is patently not a guarantee, but an intention. As I said, reasonable accommodation will be made.

I have shown that have no absolute right to a female GP.

Can I choose to see a male or female GP?
You can ask to see a male or female GP, as long as your surgery has both male and female GPs available.
GPs at your surgery
Most GP surgeries and health centres have male and female GPs. However, a small number of doctors work on their own. You can find out more on our GP services explained page.
If your GP surgery does have both male and female GPs, they will try their best to meet your request. However, this may not always be possible, or you may have to wait longer to see a specific GP.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

 

[WouldBe]

Not always. The senior nurse may be male. In mental health half the staff are male.

Why on earth would someone who's suffered domestic violence or sexual abuse be treated on a mental health ward?

 

[Pickman's model]

It is patently not a guarantee, but an intention. As I said, reasonable accommodation will be made.

I have shown that have no absolute right to a female GP.

Can I choose to see a male or female GP?
You can ask to see a male or female GP, as long as your surgery has both male and female GPs available.
GPs at your surgery
Most GP surgeries and health centres have male and female GPs. However, a small number of doctors work on their own. You can find out more on our GP services explained page.
If your GP surgery does have both male and female GPs, they will try their best to meet your request. However, this may not always be possible, or you may have to wait longer to see a specific GP.

The problem is you don't know best here

 

[Border Reiver]

Why on earth would someone who's suffered domestic violence or sexual abuse be treated on a mental health ward?

Nice deviation. It happens. But it is immaterial. People who gave been raped or abused are not resistant to mental disorder. On the contrary it is often a contributory factor in mental disorder.