Oh dear... Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson sacked over Huawei leak.

[8ball]

His usage of language is so classic tory isn't it. He didn't tell the reporter when he was asked about it. That much is probably true. He doesn't deny that he told the reporter before or after he was asked though. It's like the ones that say 'I refute the allegation' rather than 'I deny the allegation'.Refute means to prove wrong, typically with evidence, which the person saying it typically isn't doing at the time. It sounds like deny, but it isn't.

The "refute" thing boils my piss every time.
This "withdrawing the whip" thing too... surprised we haven't found more MP corpses with fresh produce in their orifices over recent years.

 

[souljacker]

I think they've got most of North America.

They are massive in the UK along with Nokia and Cisco.

 

[Wookey]

Spot on.
Although more likely...doesn’t now have to rebuff calls for his resignation.....

I was really looking forward to all that.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

His usage of language is so classic tory isn't it. He didn't tell the reporter when he was asked about it. That much is probably true. He doesn't deny that he told the reporter before or after he was asked though. It's like the ones that say 'I refute the allegation' rather than 'I deny the allegation'.Refute means to prove wrong, typically with evidence, which the person saying it typically isn't doing at the time. It sounds like deny, but it isn't.

He swore on his kids life he didnt do it.

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[brogdale]

MoD’s ‘loss’ is fireplace manufacturers’ ‘gain’, I suppose?

 

[Pickman's model]

He swore on his kids life he didnt do it.

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(((gw's offspring)))

 

[Pickman's model]

The "refute" thing boils my piss every time.
This "withdrawing the whip" thing too... surprised we haven't found more MP corpses with fresh produce in their orifices over recent years.

There's a reason skeletons in closets are called skeletons in closets

 

[Sprocket.]

He swore on his kids life he didnt do it.

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Typical, I notice they never swear on their own life.

 

[alex_]

Ok, I get that and other posts above but why cant we do this shit? we can, we have the know how, and the people, we just need to back ourselves, and that is something that capitalism is interested in.

Any of it that did happen is owned by bae, or Thales or suchlike now.

Alex

 

[Poi E]

had a giggle at a telegraph headline "master of the dark arts". yeah yeah, like Gove is the intellectual one, May the stable one...

 

[Sprocket.]

So Williamson takes it to 42 cabinet or government ministers who have been sacked or resigned since the 2017 general election.
Strong and stable for the people of Britain..

 

[SpookyFrank]

Gavin Williamson: 'I was tried by kangaroo court – then sacked'

The first thing he did in his job was suggest that suspected ISIS fighters be summarily executed. So I've got limited sympathy if he now feels he's been dealt with without due process.

 

[Poi E]

China will breathe a sight of relief that the planned British naval bases in the South China sea are no longer a threat. Phew.

UK must use 'hard power' and increase 'mass and lethality' of Armed Forces to combat Russia and China, Gavin Williamson to say

looks like China got there first Gavin

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

had a giggle at a telegraph headline "master of the dark arts". yeah yeah, like Gove is the intellectual one, May the stable one...

Inuit's have forty words for snow.

In the UK we have a similar number of words for, 'shower of shit'.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

So Williamson takes it to 42 cabinet or government ministers who have been sacked or resigned since the 2017 general election.
Strong and stable for the people of Britain..

 

[Dogsauce]

What are the chances that he was knobbled by the Telegraph as part of Plan Boris? He’s not one of their guys.

 

[kebabking]

What are the chances that he was knobbled by the Telegraph as part of Plan Boris? He’s not one of their guys.

I wouldn't fall off my chair if that was the case....

 

[Sprocket.]

What are the chances that he was knobbled by the Telegraph as part of Plan Boris? He’s not one of their guys.

It is evident that the Tories are no longer a political party, they’ve become another self-devouring mob whose shit poisons all around it.

 

[likesfish]

The fixed term of the parliament act seems such a brilliant idea giving us a strong and stable democratic government that's the envy of the world.

oh wait

 

[UnderOpenSky]

It is evident that the Tories are no longer a political party, they’ve become another self-devouring mob whose shit poisons all around it.

They don't care as they know that they will still get voted in next time...

 

[Pickman's model]

They don't care as they know that they will still get voted in next time...

that's what the liberals always thought

 

[mojo pixy]

I liked:

“It’s not for the government to determine prosecutions, but the prime minister has said, from her point of view, that she considers the matter to be closed.”

Obviously it's not actually up to me whether he gets nicked or not but I AM PRIME MINISTER and I don't want it AND I AM PRIME MINISTER kthxbai

 

[skyscraper101]

Hopefully this'll be the end of his ministerial career.

His headstone shall read: "I never done it"

 

[Teaboy]

This accusation is that he broke the Official Secrets Act. That would seem to be a prima facie case of criminality. I don't think it's up to May to decide that the matter is closed.

 

[Poi E]

Huawei will be able to help with HMG cybersecurity. They're flying out their top guys as we speak. No, wait, they're already here.

 

[kebabking]

This accusation is that he broke the Official Secrets Act. That would seem to be a prima facie case of criminality. I don't think it's up to May to decide that the matter is closed.

actually, according to frantic backpeddalling, the accusation is that he broke the ministerial code - the sensible thing would to have been to have avoided accusing him of the leak, and just stated that his response to the leak enquiry was unsettling for the PM, that she no longer had confidence in him, and that therefore he was no longer Defence Secretary.

however, the OSA accusation is out of the bag and there's little the PM can do to throw a net over it.

any prosecution of Williamson (or whoever else gets embroiled in this debacle) is however going to face a problem - the leak was not primarily of operational/intelligence information, it was of political information: that 5 members of the NSA voted against Huawei, 5 for, and that the PM had the casting vote. that is, theoretically, covered by the OSA, but so is the lunch menu at Shrivenham, as it is only information that i could glean from my duties. no one has - i hope - ever been prosecuted for revealing the lunch menu at Shrivenham as, although its obviously still official information, its just 'meh', as is who voted for what.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Good to see the filth being impartial here...

Scotland Yard said in a statement that it was a matter for the National Security Council and the Cabinet Office, and it was not carrying out an investigation.

"Clearly, if at any stage we receive any information that would suggest criminal offences have been committed, then we will look into that," it added.

Nothing to suggest a criminal offence, nothing.

 

[mojo pixy]

His headstone shall read: "I never done it"

Here Lies Gavin Williamson RIP
And his poor kids whose lives he swore on
The lying bastard

 

[Poi E]

Fair dos to plod not wanting to get involved with an investigation at the kindergarten.

 

[Teaboy]

actually, according to frantic backpeddalling, the accusation is that he broke the ministerial code - the sensible thing would to have been to have avoided accusing him of the leak, and just stated that his response to the leak enquiry was unsettling for the PM, that she no longer had confidence in him, and that therefore he was no longer Defence Secretary.

however, the OSA accusation is out of the bag and there's little the PM can do to throw a net over it.

any prosecution of Williamson (or whoever else gets embroiled in this debacle) is however going to face a problem - the leak was not primarily of operational/intelligence information, it was of political information: that 5 members of the NSA voted against Huawei, 5 for, and that the PM had the casting vote. that is, theoretically, covered by the OSA, but so is the lunch menu at Shrivenham, as it is only information that i could glean from my duties. no one has - i hope - ever been prosecuted for revealing the lunch menu at Shrivenham as, although its obviously still official information, its just 'meh', as is who voted for what.

For sure the information is fairly low grade stuff. I just want a police investigation to happen because they almost certainly wouldn't be able to prove anything which would then be used against May. I just want to see as much chaos as possible.