Northern Independence Party
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ska invita
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another map with that north south roughly wash to the humber dividing line, based on geologywe've done this before but
Social geographer Danny Dorling did a very thorough study using a variety of sociocultural measures to decide where the line was
he concluded
by interesting coincidence this nearly matches the line where the glacier reached during the last ice age
im not actually sure what it denotes - that purple line is "Late Triassic - Wikipedia" but that doesnt mean much to me
Geology of Great Britain - Wikipedia
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Dodgy old ground; environmental determinism.another map with that north south roughly wash to the humber dividing line, based on geology
im not actually sure what it denotes - that purple line is "Late Triassic - Wikipedia" but that doesnt mean much to me
Geology of Great Britain - Wikipedia
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Well I like it.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
I'm pretty sure I recognised someone in the 70s punk gig footage 
Look at the lyrics man. Jesus christ. Tedious doggrel. Like some shit poem some cunt might send to their local paper.
Friendship, humour, pies and cakes. Rugby League, mountains, lakes.
Beatles, Brontës, dry stone wall. Back-to-back and Union Hall.
Guts, pride, pluck, spine. Bus-stop queue and picket line.
Brendan Foster, Maxine Peake. The jokes we tell, the way we speak.
Mersey, Humber, Tyne and Tees. Whitby Harbour, Irish Sea.
Kinder Scout, Lister Mill, Skipton Castle, Pendle Hill.
Blackpool Tower, Pennine Way, Sca Fell Pike, Whitley Bay.
Albert Dock, Ilkley Moor, Malham Cove, Wigan Pier.
We journeyed from the Rocket to the Bluebird
Right around the earth
A compass for a heart
The needle points to north (True north)
Points to north (True north)
Points to north (True north)
History’s needle points to north
Friendship, humour, pies and cakes. Rugby League, mountains, lakes.
Beatles, Brontës, dry stone wall. Back-to-back and Union Hall.
Guts, pride, pluck, spine. Bus-stop queue and picket line.
Brendan Foster, Maxine Peake. The jokes we tell, the way we speak.
Mersey, Humber, Tyne and Tees. Whitby Harbour, Irish Sea.
Kinder Scout, Lister Mill, Skipton Castle, Pendle Hill.
Blackpool Tower, Pennine Way, Sca Fell Pike, Whitley Bay.
Albert Dock, Ilkley Moor, Malham Cove, Wigan Pier.
We journeyed from the Rocket to the Bluebird
Right around the earth
A compass for a heart
The needle points to north (True north)
Points to north (True north)
Points to north (True north)
History’s needle points to north
mauvais
on reddit or something
That middle bit's alright.
Mersey, Humber, Tyne and Tees. Whitby Harbour, Irish Sea.
Kinder Scout, Lister Mill, Skipton Castle, Pendle Hill.
Blackpool Tower, Pennine Way, Sca Fell Pike, Whitley Bay.
Albert Dock, Ilkley Moor, Malham Cove, Wigan Pier...
Are all in the north.
Mersey, Humber, Tyne and Tees. Whitby Harbour, Irish Sea.
Kinder Scout, Lister Mill, Skipton Castle, Pendle Hill.
Blackpool Tower, Pennine Way, Sca Fell Pike, Whitley Bay.
Albert Dock, Ilkley Moor, Malham Cove, Wigan Pier...
Are all in the north.
ska invita
back on the other side
Nationalism
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
No Irwell, Irk or Medlock? Disappointing 
Some lyrics might need some tweaking but I think it does capture a lot of northern identity. I and the handful of people I sent it to (all Geordies) enjoyed it and I'm sure others will too.
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Did Mitch Benn write it? Because it's the kind of thing he'd write.
Fair enough.
You are right, but I generally hold national anthems to a lower standard than other art forms.
I generally have a soft spot for Northern kitsch due to being away for most of my 20s.
Leighsw2
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OK - are they going to stand a candidate in Hartlepool and do they stand a chance?
The industrial revolution stuff still feels relevant to me, because deprived areas in the North generally suffered from deindustrialisation. Going round somewhere like Sunderland, which is really grim these days but was formerly a boom town when my grandparents were my age, it is hard not to feel a sense of loss over the ship building industry. And I've always found it sad to learn that so much technology of world historical importance was from up here but then the communities who built it have in many cases been thrown on the scrapheap once they outlived their usefulness.
I was born after the miner's strike but I always heard stories about it, and it is something emotive to me. It isn't just the historical story which is emotive to me, but it still feels like an aspect of my living struggles as the high unemployment rate at home necessitated me moving away to find work, and getting caught in exploitative rent arrangements as a result. So I often feel angry about having to move away for work, and this ties into a general anger about the injustice of deindustrialisation and how the miners were treated etc.
That's why the stuff about the industrial revolution feels powerful and relevant to me, and I don't find it be a hackneyed cliche at all. That's probably why I enjoyed it more than you, the industrial heritage stuff really works on me.
I was born after the miner's strike but I always heard stories about it, and it is something emotive to me. It isn't just the historical story which is emotive to me, but it still feels like an aspect of my living struggles as the high unemployment rate at home necessitated me moving away to find work, and getting caught in exploitative rent arrangements as a result. So I often feel angry about having to move away for work, and this ties into a general anger about the injustice of deindustrialisation and how the miners were treated etc.
That's why the stuff about the industrial revolution feels powerful and relevant to me, and I don't find it be a hackneyed cliche at all. That's probably why I enjoyed it more than you, the industrial heritage stuff really works on me.
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LDC
On est tous des pangolins
That's Boff from Chumbawamba waving his hands at the front. The choir do a bit around Leeds. 8 mins though, bloody hell, they do go on about how good it is up here those northerners.
I draw the line at Haywards Heath. Croydon to be generous.
ska invita
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yeah buts isnt that a very essentialist view of northern identity? what if you're northern and that isn't you.
This is the problem with regional identity politics - it carves in stone tropes about a region...a couple more steps down the line and its verging on blood and soil territory.
dont know, im alergic to this kind of thing, maybe because im a rootless cosmopolitan. Of course there's room for local pride and history, but once its inscribed in the national anthem I think that's a step too far.
Pies are good, pies are good, he's eberpiesare goode
*im not that against it tbh, im just making a point really
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Is there a party for rootless cosmopolitans?
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
With 35% of constituencies in the North being Tory held, there must be many Northerners who find it problematic to buy into an identity cast in labour solidarity.
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