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New Social Security benefit cap to hurt hundreds of thousands, including disabled people.

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Lower benefit cap to hit a quarter of a million poor children

Nearly a quarter of a million children from poor families will be hit by the extended household benefit cap due to be introduced this autumn, according to the government’s latest analysis of the impact of the policy.

The new cap will take an average of £60 a week out of the incomes of affected households, almost certainly pushing them deeper into poverty. About 61% of those affected will be female lone parents.

Anti-poverty campaigners said the cap would damage the life chances of hundreds of thousands of children, and force already poor families to drastically cut back on the amount they spend on food, fuel and clothing.

The new cap restricts the total amount an individual household can receive in benefits to £23,000 a year in London (£442 a week) and £20,000 in the rest of the UK (£385 a week). It replaces the existing cap level of £26,000.
The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has argued that the benefit cap acts as an incentive for people on benefits to move into employment, because getting a job automatically exempts them from cap penalties.

Lower benefit cap to hit a quarter of a million poor children


The benefit cap is to be reduced to 23,000 a year in London and 20,000 in the rest of the Country(solidifying the concept of regional benefit rates) Some major disability benefits are included in the cap, ESA(not those in support group) Severe Disability Allowance(particularly cruel cut). Guardian estimates some families will lose 60 pounds a week, but I think some disabled people are also going to lose considerable amounts. This is on top of cuts to ESA and freezes on all benefits, the poorest are paying for austerity.
 
That is shocking, I wonder where is the outcry then, big protests outside the DWP, etc, doesn't seem to be on the radar.

btw, you can be sure some families are not even aware this is going to happen soon.
 
Not exactly the above but my old pensioner mother with arthritis and diabetes recently visited an Atos assessment centre before her DLA comes to an end. I had to tell her they're not there to help. I don't live with her but my housing costs are miniscule (lucky to have a mortgage and that'll be paid off in 5 years) so I can help her out with money. My brother's partner is a social worker so she has been good for advice. Others are much more vulnerable, alone, poorer. I am feeling murderous right now.
 
When it comes to our supposed social betters I've become more sanguinary in my thoughts as I've got older, not more mellow. Their heads on spikes more like.
 
That is shocking, I wonder where is the outcry then, big protests outside the DWP, etc, doesn't seem to be on the radar.

btw, you can be sure some families are not even aware this is going to happen soon.
So organise one, facebook, easy. Bring spikes or placards if you wish.


Not exactly the above but my old pensioner mother with arthritis and diabetes recently visited an Atos assessment centre before her DLA comes to an end. I had to tell her they're not there to help. I don't live with her but my housing costs are miniscule (lucky to have a mortgage and that'll be paid off in 5 years) so I can help her out with money. My brother's partner is a social worker so she has been good for advice. Others are much more vulnerable, alone, poorer. I am feeling murderous right now.
Good on you for being around to help, much respect. As a carer i've seen too many victims of such neglect. If i didnt have a boy relying on me i might have been well up for yon murder spree.
 
When it comes to our supposed social betters I've become more sanguinary in my thoughts as I've got older, not more mellow. Their heads on spikes more like.

its the dawning realisation that there is no saviour in strongmen and top down socialism articulated by various flavour. Well it is for me anyway. You start to think about how and when could we off them. Laughing in our faces as they immiserate us and our loved ones. There will be a reckoning
 
So organise one, facebook, easy. Bring spikes or placards if you wish.



Good on you for being around to help, much respect. As a carer i've seen too many victims of such neglect. If i didnt have a boy relying on me i might have been well up for yon murder spree.


been there, done it, at the Parliament Green vigil for the dead from the reforms, there were no more than thirty people, many sick and disabled people are too frightened to go on them, and the progressives/civil society don't seem to see these deaths, etc as a priority.
 
been there, done it, at the Parliament Green vigil for the dead from the reforms, there were no more than thirty people, many sick and disabled people are too frightened to go on them, and the progressives/civil society don't seem to see these deaths, etc as a priority.
Here's a thing to consider: A lot of longterm sick and/or disabled people are unable to march or attend protests, even if they live only a few miles away.
 
Here's a thing to consider: A lot of longterm sick and/or disabled people are unable to march or attend protests, even if they live only a few miles away.
The majority of the people directly affected by cuts like this will find it difficult or impossible to attend because of caring commitments (carers and single parents) illness/disability themselves, or the kind of low-paid work that means you can't afford to take time off to travel to this sort of thing. That's why they pick on us.
 
The majority of the people directly affected by cuts like this will find it difficult or impossible to attend because of caring commitments (carers and single parents) illness/disability themselves, or the kind of low-paid work that means you can't afford to take time off to travel to this sort of thing. That's why they pick on us.
There is that, too; I can neither leave VP at home to attend such a protest, nor take him with me.

Even my marching as far as the local Town Hall (all of a short bus ride or a half hour brisk walk away) or attending a Town Hall meeting was a major exercise in logistics, and I'm only a carer.
 
That is shocking, I wonder where is the outcry then, big protests outside the DWP, etc, doesn't seem to be on the radar.

btw, you can be sure some families are not even aware this is going to happen soon.

The source of the cuts has been de-centralised, making it much harder to effectively target the evildoers. A big protest outside the DWP would be a good spectacle, but easy to brush off.

A mass protest outside of Crapp's residence, on the other hand...
 
Will you go to your MP? see if there is anything they can do, this cannot stand.

Our (me and Greebo's) MP is a slick, smarmy fuck who's happy to lie to your face about who/what he supports. He'll do nothing, just as he's done nothing before. The douchebag even gave heavy support to the act that criminalised squatting commercial premises. He's a Labour right Progress-loving excuse for an MP.
 
even if he were Dennis Skinner rather than Chukka he'd not be able to do shit all. The whole system is so rigged it makes no difference. I know ye know this. But its so fucking frustrating. They cut and they lie and they fuck you over. Even the 'good' ones, they can't be trusted.

You say "he could do shit all", but that's not true. While he can't change policy, he could change anti-"scrounger" attitudes in his own constituency, but he doesn't. He's comfortable with middle-class contempt for people who live on council estates (where disabled people are over-represented).
 
It's gone a bit quiet recently, but yes, they are biding their time, hopefully this time, team Corbyn will be there to respond robustly.
 
Thats what i meant, I am surprised that you think i wouldn't consider that though. they need more allies.
I've heard it several times before, from disabled people, from people who are long term sick, and from other carers. I've had it up to here and beyond with being called apathetic when, y'know what? It's so much easier to haul somebody along if they're in a wheelchair than when they use crutches or a walking stick but have limited energy or the pain is going to wipe them out.

I've had it up to here with being looked at as if I've got sooooo much free time while I'm a carer. Hell, I haven't even got time to be unwell. </whinge>

There was, for a time, an alternative, "we can't march". I can't find it now on google, maybe somebody else can.
 
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