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My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding

Your kind are doomed Santino. Spraying spunk all over your computer keyboard when you could be siring brats.
 
It was a well-made documentary, although ironic that the travellers' way of life embodied a lot of values the Guardian is not renowned for extolling to its own readership - marriage, rigid gender roles, primacy of family ties over friendships with non-relatives, high birth rate.

Not sure what that has to do with it being 'fascinating and well made' :confused:

Myself I'm still waiting to hear what happens to the poor girls who don't behave as expected and abide by the strict (ahem) 'moral' code. The ones who are 'scandalised' because they choose to do what most teenagers do, go to school, have boyfriends, experiment with drinking and aspire to something other than cooking and cleaning.

Although I don't think we'll be hearing about it somehow.
 
You do realise you're all looking at this from a completely different cultural viewpoint right?

Those women didn't come across as feeling oppressed for a start.
 
The grabbing was pretty shocking stuff.

As for the money and the cars, its not quite like what any successful businessmen would be driving. A lot of settled travellers live in Rathkeale near Limerick and every Christmas a lot of the men drive their cars home from wherever they've been working in Europe( mainly in tarmaccing gangs). The cars are something else, many worth 100k plus, often driven by mean in their 20s. Some of them build absolutely massive houses, then live in the garden in their caravans. My husband works with a bloke who is related to settled travellers, he says it is true that they have to put a lot of money behind the bar when a wedding is on. He went to a wedding in Youghal last year and the whole town pretty much shut down for the day except for one pub!

I did feel sorry for the little girl in the massive communion dress, she could hardly walk!
 
he says it is true that they have to put a lot of money behind the bar when a wedding is on.

But why? Is it just one family or group of families that made pubs do this or are their parties just naturally rather lively and a bit more thanthe odd glass gets broken?
 
It was a well-made documentary, although ironic that the travellers' way of life embodied a lot of values the Guardian is not renowned for extolling to its own readership - marriage, rigid gender roles, primacy of family ties over friendships with non-relatives, high birth rate.

Spot on. The Irish travellers I know think this programme is great.
 
Continuing their way of life and ensuring plenty of descendants. You don't really think childless atheists and hispters are going to inherit the earth?

That's the meek. The childless atheists and hipsters are doing the DJing.
 
The grabbing was pretty shocking stuff.

As for the money and the cars, its not quite like what any successful businessmen would be driving. A lot of settled travellers live in Rathkeale near Limerick and every Christmas a lot of the men drive their cars home from wherever they've been working in Europe( mainly in tarmaccing gangs). The cars are something else, many worth 100k plus, often driven by mean in their 20s. Some of them build absolutely massive houses, then live in the garden in their caravans. My husband works with a bloke who is related to settled travellers, he says it is true that they have to put a lot of money behind the bar when a wedding is on. He went to a wedding in Youghal last year and the whole town pretty much shut down for the day except for one pub!

I did feel sorry for the little girl in the massive communion dress, she could hardly walk!


me too - that was quite a disturbing image - but I suppose it was what she wanted.
 
No, not ones from your sheltered life experience, no.

What proportion of teens do you reckon, then? What's your evidence base. Aside from tabloid journalism, I assume. You wouldn't be basing your argument solely on a few Daily Mail-type stories about the terrible things that teens get up to.
 
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