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I was wondering if it would be better just to call him Pa...like his wife did. 
My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
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Watched it this aft on catchup (4od with it's adverts
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I felt sorry for Joan, poor girl. Snide that she was forced by tradition being a 'settled' traveller and having had a taste of regular life with working and all really.
Paddy Doherty is TVs celebrity gypsy, been on a few shows including a full show of some Danny Dyer hardman thing. I've known of a few of the family aswell as a lot from the other settled families in the North West.
)I felt sorry for Joan, poor girl. Snide that she was forced by tradition being a 'settled' traveller and having had a taste of regular life with working and all really.
Paddy Doherty is TVs celebrity gypsy, been on a few shows including a full show of some Danny Dyer hardman thing. I've known of a few of the family aswell as a lot from the other settled families in the North West.
Iguana
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Where are you getting this from? First off the Irish language is Gaeilge not Gaelic. Secondly the language varies quite a bit between the different provinces. Thirdly it's usually spelled Pádraig and doesn't sound the same as Patrick. The 'Pá' is pronounced paw and the 'd' is pronounced but not like a 't' it's a soft 'd' and has more in common with a short glottal stop than a 't' and the 'g' is pronouced softly, it's like 'gh' not 'ck.'
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Watched it this aft on catchup (4od with it's adverts
I felt sorry for Joan, poor girl. Snide that she was forced by tradition being a 'settled' traveller and having had a taste of regular life with working and all really.
Paddy Doherty is TVs celebrity gypsy, been on a few shows including a full show of some Danny Dyer hardman thing. I've known of a few of the family aswell as a lot from the other settled families in the North West.
I watched it this afternoon too. I only felt sorry for her in the sense that she was stepping out into the unknown and was unsure what to expect. She left a comment on the programme ... and had some good luck wishes but nothing pitying her.
Chairman Meow
Perth, WA
I agree with this, and I know loads of Patricks and Padraigs.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
I always thought Padraig was pronounced Pawrig (although i may have been failing massively) and then I taught a lad who pronounced his name Pad-raig: just as it's spelled. I was really confused - he was 15 and his parents were both irish and had moved over a few years before he was born... he swore he'd never ever heard of it being prononced any other way.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I wish I hadn't bothered posting that now. I haven't even seen the show. 
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Yep, my Dad went on a course a few years ago to brush up on the Gaeilge (sp?) that he had to speak at school in Dublin. Trouble was, most of the other people on the course & the tutor were from different parts of Ireland and he found it really hard going, all very disparate in pronunciation and the like.
or just go
How does fuck off with your oar grab you?
It was Weepiper being a pedant, and weepipers toys all over the floor.
sadie lady
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we were on holiday about 3 yrs ago in salou,and sammy-jo that was in the programme was there with her family both manchester/irish,there must of been about 20 of them.my god !!!.....i cant even explain what it was like.they dominated the pool,they shouted in the hotel restaurant at every meal time,their table manners were disgusting,they ate chips for every meal including breakfast. she was even eating a plate of chips at her wedding! and she could of killed u with one look.then on a night time u couldnt even film your kids at the disco for them walking in front of you shouting to each other about what they wanted from the bar.no social standards at all. everyone just stared at them- u couldnt help yourself from doing it.everything they did was a massive pantomine.as far as the programme went,i really enjoyed it.the dressmaker wouldnt reveal what she charged for those dresses,but they can cost up to 15 grand a piece.she must be laughing her tits off thats all i can say.it was joan i felt sorry for ,i really think she was just doing it because she was 22 and she thought that as too old (poor girl).you could see the terror in her face.theres a couple of things i dont get? why have all the gypsy boys got those bloody awful greasy mullets?.and the girls are all so stunning...what the hell do they find attractive in those lads.its a strange mixture!
Chairman Meow
Perth, WA
Not sure I can offer any particular insight, but I spent an hour or so at the Waterden Lane site, in the Olympic area, a few months before eviction. It was spotless, and the woman and her friend whom we spent time with were very courteous, very civilised.
Maybe there's more respect for the surroundings when it's a permanent site? Dunno.
Ground Elder
Well-Known Member
Some Gypsies and Travellers are are anti-social, violent, fly-tipping criminals, the majority are not. Condemn this minority, but recognise that they are as much a problem for their communities as they are to us.
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LilMissHissyFit
Disturbed in a pink bra
BUT ITS FUCKING IRRELEVANT TO THE THREAD YOU ABSOLUTE TOOL
Now, toys back in box and on with the thread?? no??
I always thought Padraig was pronounced Pawrig (although i may have been failing massively) and then I taught a lad who pronounced his name Pad-raig: just as it's spelled. I was really confused - he was 15 and his parents were both irish and had moved over a few years before he was born... he swore he'd never ever heard of it being prononced any other way.
With most Irish names there's no right or wrong, it's all down to where you're from.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/jul/24/golf.comment
BUT ITS FUCKING IRRELEVANT TO THE THREAD YOU ABSOLUTE TOOL
Now, toys back in box and on with the thread?? no??
It's Weepiper you should be directing your crap at if you care to read the thread, Zenie asked what Pa was short for, I answered, Weepiper went on and on and on..........you useless shite.
Am I just a more comfortable target?
fractionMan
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doh!
grit
an ugly force for good
By honest hard work maybe?
No.
All travellers are thieves?
I supposed everyone in a hood is a mugger and them teenage boys that wear baseball caps.
People that live on council estates all commit burglaries.
Where do they get their money from then?
Thora
Differently Ethical
There's definitely an element that if it's a temporary site and you don't know when you'll be kicked out, there's less motivation to keep things tidy. And also the practical issues of binmen won't pick up your rubbish.
LilMissHissyFit
Disturbed in a pink bra
INNIT.... whoever was going on you were both being fucking pedantic and irrelevant!
pootle
little moran
It depends what myths you believe in the first place. As far as the nice cars etc they're no different from loads of non-gypsies in the construction industry who run their own businesses.
If I came away from the program with anything it's that the tradition is very controlling. It's a life full of contradictions. The idea that 'that's what we all do and we all do it' is bollocks IME. There was no mention of what happens to people who don't stick to the rules for example and one day as a princess doesn't equal a lifetime of happiness.
Louloubelle
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Erm is there anyone here who actually has regular contact with Irish travellers?
Doesn't seem like it to me!
While I would not claim to be an authority by a long shot I have worked with many kids from travelling families over the years and also had some interesting conversations with travelers about cultural stuff which was where I heard all the stuff about taboos about washing clothes and touching etc.
In my distant, ancestral past I have gypsy ancestry, although my lot were from the Scottish highlands and borders, not Ireland.
Also I live just down the road from a travelers camp. My contact with the people there has been limited to brief conversations with the children about fighting (a subject apparently close to their hearts) and refusing to buy camcorders* for £50 from traveling women on the occasions I have been asked.
* boxes full of potatoes in fact
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