Motherhood and the denial of the mother

[Steel Icarus]

I was responding to the pair of idiots above you who were getting personal about the position that I took

Bold mindset for a new poster, this.

 

[Maris Piper]

Those articles kind of agree with what I was saying though
It's just this cultish idea that women have this magical quality

 

[Pickman's model]

I was responding to the pair of idiots above you who were getting personal about the position that I took

Not very effectively it must be said

 

[nogojones]

You can make babies without ovaries, they did that in the 70s I think

Where did they get the eggs? The Co-op?

 

[Pickman's model]

It's true though. Humans are animals and they are really easy to breed which undermines our individualistic myths

Which individualistic myths have you had undermined recently?

 

[Maris Piper]

Bold mindset for a new poster, this.

Wow you went from giving a shit about what you were saying to crying about the rules at quite some pace lol

 

[Pickman's model]

Wow you went from giving a shit about what you were saying to crying about the rules at quite some pace lol

You just went to shit at quite some pace

 

[Maris Piper]

Where did they get the eggs? The Co-op?

You can buy a whole kid for pretty cheap from Africa or south Asia with eggs in it

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Those articles kind of agree with what I was saying though
It's just this cultish idea that women have this magical quality

No...those articles are absolutely not what you're saying.

I'm pretty sure that they can make a baby easily
If science really can't do it then you can just do a Madonna and nick one from a village in Africa

This ^^^^ is flippant. It disregards women and couples who might have difficulty having a child of their own. It is a callous cold utilitarian view that sees birth as a mechanism.

 

[Pickman's model]

You can buy a whole kid for pretty cheap from Africa or south Asia with eggs in it

You mean a girl with eggs in her. Your 'it' very telling, as is your notion buying humans is ok

 

[Steel Icarus]

Wow you went from giving a shit about what you were saying to crying about the rules at quite some pace lol

Lol
Lol
L
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rubber, glue, sux 2BU

What rules chief?

 

[Pickman's model]

No...those articles are absolutely not what you're saying.



This ^^^^ is flippant. It disregards women and couples who might have difficulty having a child of their own. It is a callous cold utilitarian view that sees birth as a mechanism.

It's wicked to mock the afflicted

 

[Poot]

I must admit that my own lived experience is that no one ignores my mother In fact I would go as far as to say that my family almost is a matriarchy, which is why I was so surprised when I left home and realised that the world doesn't work that way. (I hadn't given it much thought before until a boyfriend pointed out that my dad was 'under the thumb', which made me really cross because his dad was a twat to his mum whereas my dad's ace and not under the thumb at all, it's just that my mum is quite forthright and confident which was apparently unusual in the 1980s)

 

[Maris Piper]

This ^^^^ is flippant. It disregards women and couples who might have difficulty having a child of their own. It is a callous cold utilitarian view that sees birth as a mechanism.

I'm not arguing for treating people as animals. I'm arguing against the pseudo religious idea that there is something sacred about human procreation. Nobody thinks insects eggs are sacred

 

[Maris Piper]

You mean a girl with eggs in her. Your 'it' very telling, as is your notion buying humans is ok

I didn't say that it's ok, I said that it's possible

It's very telling that you made up that I think it's ok rather than saying why you think that it's not

 

[Baronage-Phase]

I'm not arguing for treating people as animals. I'm arguing against the pseudo religious idea that there is something sacred about human procreation. Nobody thinks insects eggs are sacred

Nobody is talking about religion, pseudo or otherwise

 

[kebabking]

I deny my mother. I tell people I'm adopted.

Particularly myself - I have one of those sleep cd things that plays an endless repeat of 'she isn't your mother, it's ok, don't worry, you aren't related to her, sleep now....'.

 

[Maris Piper]

Nobody is talking about religion, pseudo or otherwise

It's a religious conceit that humans are above animals.

 

[Red Cat]

Anyway, on my street, there are families who've lived here for decades and the daughters and mothers live on the same street and the daughters who live elsewhere visit several times a week. At the school my children attend, I often see mothers and their mothers.

I don't visit my own mother much because of a difficult relationship; I don't see it as a general phenomenon although I think these difficult relationships are sometimes repeated in families.

 

[Pickman's model]

I didn't say that it's ok, I said that it's possible

It's very telling that you made up that I think it's ok rather than saying why you think that it's not

You still haven't said you consider it wrong

 

[Maris Piper]

Ok. This is way beneath me. You lot are better off just saying why you like, finally understand your mother
Sorry you couldn't get to glasto and be on enough drugs to make your empty lives seem interesting xx

 

[JuanTwoThree]

"Your father decides the important things and I decide what things are important"

My mother decided we were buying a VW camper. My dad had the important task of choosing a colour.

More seriously that's how I think Spain works as both matriarchy and machista, especially at family level.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Ok. This is way beneath me. You lot are better off just saying why you like, finally understand your mother
Sorry you couldn't get to glasto and be on enough drugs to make your empty lives seem interesting xx

ooooOOOOOOooooooh

 

[Baronage-Phase]

It's a religious conceit that humans are above animals.

That's a whole other thread...it's somewhere...someone started it.

Ok. This is way beneath me. You lot are better off just saying why you like, finally understand your mother
Sorry you couldn't get to glasto and be on enough drugs to make your empty lives seem interesting xx

Oh...this is quite directed...are you someone who is involved with someone who has posted recently about their mother being abusive?

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I'm not arguing for treating people as animals. I'm arguing against the pseudo religious idea that there is something sacred about human procreation. Nobody thinks insects eggs are sacred

I do.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Ok. This is way beneath me. You lot are better off just saying why you like, finally understand your mother
Sorry you couldn't get to glasto and be on enough drugs to make your empty lives seem interesting xx

Gosh. Aren’t you so controversial. How exciting.

 

[Pickman's model]

Ok. This is way beneath me. You lot are better off just saying why you like, finally understand your mother
Sorry you couldn't get to glasto and be on enough drugs to make your empty lives seem interesting xx

If I'd wanted to end up at glasto I'd know my life was so empty and unfulfilling as to have no future purpose.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

I don't understand the OP. Who is silencing mothers? And I love my mum very much. I'm in my 50s and she's in her 80s.

 

[Sweet FA]

It's not that tool Wells is it?

 

[xenon]

Why are you even bothering with this dismal Spud?