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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

Kizmet said:
And that's genuinely insulting to people who couldn't find work at all....
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That's bullshit, though. If you are a journalist at the News of the World, you've planned a career to get there, and you can, imo, be held responsible for the bile you produce.
 
London_Calling said:
Women troll less - at least *women* who are women troll less. The presumption towards a female is, therefore, more generous. Plus, most on here don't have gender specific usernames. You might if you were a troll though.
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I'm not trolling. This is getting really tedious. Just because I don't go along with the mainstream views here, it doesn't make me a troll.
 
the 'they're all scum who print the sub' argument was used against printworkers in 85, and it was bullshit then. And it wasn't the NUJ who scabbed on the strike (the some members did) it was the EETPU. Saying 'fuck them' now is no better than cheering when the Notts pits were shut after 91. That kinda bollocks is all part of a vicious circle of a failure of solidarity that only leads every worker into worse shit.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Yes. I don't have a problem at all with people working for a company owned by Murdoch. It's not their fault that the cunt has taken over so much of the media. Where I do have a problem is if they are actively involved in the production of hateful newspaper articles. At that point, they really have to take responsibility for what they are doing.
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What defines being "actively involved" tho? at my last job i worked for a very very well known and prestigious univeristy which is derided on here (rightly) for reproducing class privilege, among other things. it is one of the largest, if not the largest, employer in the area i was working in. my job was a completely menial job, but it was obviously assisting one of the objectives of the university and helping it to continue ,otherwise they wouldn't have employed me.
 
belboid said:
the 'they're all scum who print the sub' argument was used against printworkers in 85, and it was bullshit then. And it wasn't the NUJ who scabbed on the strike (the some members did) it was the EETPU. Saying 'fuck them' now is no better than cheering when the Notts pits were shut after 91. That kinda bollocks is all part of a vicious circle of a failure of solidarity that only leads every worker into worse shit.
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good post
 
Lord Camomile said:
'scuse the ignorance, but what is this Wapping thing that keeps getting referenced? Link will do :)
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When Murdoch moved from Fleet street to Wapping in 1986 he provoked a strike and sacked his entire workforce of 6000 (mainly SOGAT and NGA members) and staffed his Wapping operation with secretly trained scab labour. His papers never missed a single day of publication. The working conditions of NI workers in Wapping today are a direct result of his union busting.
http://www.freedompress.org.uk/news/2011/03/03/wapping-dispute-1986/
 
dylans said:
oh diddums. I had no choice but to work for a hateful propaganda sheet spewing out racist and anti working class bile for decades and now the cunt I happily worked for when he was fucking everyone else has fucked me too boo hoo. Should we have cried for the employees of Der Sturmer when they were closed down in 1945 too? FUCK EM.
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Yeah. I'm sure the cleaning staff were very anti-working class...

... your attitude would have gone down a storm with the that publication.
 
frogwoman said:
What defines being "actively involved" tho?
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In this particular case, if you are on the editorial/journalist staff and you are involved in producing the hateful articles. It's ridiculous to say that journalists should not be held responsible for what they write because they have no choice but to comply with their paper's wishes. Of all people, journalists have to be accountable for what they do. If you work for a national tabloid like the NOTW, you know exactly what you're signing up for - and more than that, you've probably worked hard to get there.
 
belboid said:
the 'they're all scum who print the sub' argument was used against printworkers in 85, and it was bullshit then. And it wasn't the NUJ who scabbed on the strike (the some members did) it was the EETPU. Saying 'fuck them' now is no better than cheering when the Notts pits were shut after 91. That kinda bollocks is all part of a vicious circle of a failure of solidarity that only leads every worker into worse shit.
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I don't think they're all scum or that they deserve it but I do have to say my sympathy is somewhat limited. If you want solidarity you have to give solidarity too.

NotW about the strikes last week said:
And the reality is that strikes will drain the work that is our lifeblood, not to mention the iniquity of targeting innocent children to make a political point.
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belboid said:
the 'they're all scum who print the sub' argument was used against printworkers in 85, and it was bullshit then. And it wasn't the NUJ who scabbed on the strike (the some members did) it was the EETPU. Saying 'fuck them' now is no better than cheering when the Notts pits were shut after 91. That kinda bollocks is all part of a vicious circle of a failure of solidarity that only leads every worker into worse shit.
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I think there is some poetic justice in the Notts pits getting shut down yeah, Nottingham scabbing was one of the key reasons for the failure of the strike and they soon learned the price of their loyalty to Thatcher. The failure of solidarity isn't in not caring about the Nottingham pit closures, it is in the mass scabbing that betrayed the strike and ultimately themselves, Tough shit, I don't cry for scabs
 
Kizmet said:
I think it's fairly clear you are pretty selective over who you feel sorry for.

I'm sure you think that's a quality.
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There are lots of causes that elicit my sympathy. The fate of the hacks who have built their careers attacking the poorest most vulnerable people in our country in the most hateful terms for decades isn't one of them, sorry. I will save my tears for those who deserve them. I'm glad that filthy propaganda sheet has been brought down and if the jobs of a couple of hundred of their staff is the price then so be it. I hope they will soon be joined on the dole by their colleagues in the Sun
 
dylans said:
There are lots of causes that elicit my sympathy. The fate of the hacks who have built their careers attacking the poorest most vulnerable people in our country in the most hateful terms for decades isn't one of them, sorry. I will save my tears for those who deserve them
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Like the people who weren't involved, but still lost their jobs?

Oh yeah, not them... they ain't on your 'side'.
 
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