Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[London_Calling]

What the fuck has Brooks got on Murdoch?

Are you serious? She was there at the start, at junior 'journalist' level - there is nothing she doesn't know. Almost nothing Coulson doesn't know either.

 

[Bakunin]

We all know this must happen - how else would the papers get hold of the stories they get hold of. But it's the proof that has been lacking. This needs not to be confined to the NOTW, which is surely what NI are trying to do. It needs to be spread at least to the Sun but further if possible - to the Times, anyone.

True enough. I hope certain people like the taste of porridge, because they may well have plenty of time to get used to it.

 

[claphamboy]

Who expected this?

Be honest.

I did!

I posted this post at 11.01 this morning, although I admit I didn't expect it to come so soon.

 

[little_legs]

NOTW's Sunday edition front page:

 

[agricola]

**the James Murdoch interview is on Sky News again**

 

[Citizen66]

 

[ericjarvis]

Some may have.

But there were, as I said above, very, very few NUJ members in Wapping.

More at the Mail - but, as I understand it, more on the sub-editing side.

It doesn't matter. The entire profession should be wary regardless of where they work. This is an opportunity for the NUJ to mean something again, or it can choose to simply continue to fade into irrelevance. It certainly shouldn't be simply attacking Murdoch and his senior management as if nobody else shares in the blame and as if there are no potential repurcussions for any publication other then the NotW.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I agree, eric. The bribing of the police must be endemic, and certainly not confined to Murdoch's rags. I want to see some coppers behind bars for this too.

 

[DJ Squelch]

hhmmmmm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/jun/28/newsinternational-rebekahwade

28 June 2011
Wapping executive changes herald move to seven-day operation

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News International has created what it calls a "managing editor structure" at its four newspapers in what appears to be a move towards a form of integration of daily and Sunday titles.

According to a press release, these "unique new roles will support editors in the implementation of editorial integration and redefine the way in which editorial budgets are allocated and spent."

But the real story is indicated by the quotes from Wapping's chief executive, Rebekah Brooks.

She explains that the new structure "will enable each title to share best practice and to focus more resources on front-line journalism and content creation."

And her next two sentences offer a clue to what that means:

"We will take a comprehensive look at where there is common ground across our titles and where we should remain unique.

Where there is common ground we will find ways of implementing efficiencies to editorial systems and processes and, where appropriate, we will find ways of introducing seven day working."

 

[rorymac]

fry and laurie's sketch on a world without News International...

Love that !!

 

[sunny jim]

I am so saddened by this, and so sympathetic, that I've had to turn the music up to drown out my hysterical laughter. I assume that they will all be malingering no good lazy dole scroungers from next week and I hope they all get the treatment they've been demanding for others.

 

[agricola]

It doesn't matter. The entire profession should be wary regardless of where they work. This is an opportunity for the NUJ to mean something again, or it can choose to simply continue to fade into irrelevance. It certainly shouldn't be simply attacking Murdoch and his senior management as if nobody else shares in the blame and as if there are no potential repurcussions for any publication other then the NotW.

This. If a union cannot demonstrate why it, and membership of it, are vital when 200 employees are being sacked solely to protect an executive then it should really just fuck off.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Shame Fry has a contract with a News International company, eh?

Hypocritical, smug, politically unaware millionaire cunt that he is.

I don't blame authors for taking NI money. But I do blame authors who would have their pick of publishers for doing so.

 

[ThirtyFootSmurf]

I can understand how unfair these decisions may feel, particularly for colleagues who will leave the company.

And that is the point people who still support NI and their advertisers need to understand. They will shaft the many at the bottom, to save the few at the top. They'll throw out every single good apple, to save the bad ones.

 

[Treacle Toes]

As if by magic

 

[sunny jim]

private eye are sure to bring something out about this, will make interesting reading

Cant wait for that

 

[laptop]

This. If a union cannot demonstrate why it, and membership of it, are vital when 200 employees are being sacked solely to protect an executive then it should really just fuck off.

Probably it's just recruited about 190 freelance journalists; and, yes, it'll need to have words with them about ethics.

Those who worked at the NotW were those who were prepared to work in a place where union membership was effectively forbidden.

Suggestions for how the new General Secretary could actually do something about standards are welcome...

ETA - especially standards among non-members.

 

[little_legs]

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/politics/article-23968124-some-mps-suspected-a-year-ago-but-nobody-wouldve-believed-it.do

With a grimace, Chris Bryant recalls the last time he met Rupert Murdoch's embattled lieutenant Rebekah Brooks face to face.

"She came up to me and said, 'Oh, Mr Bryant, it's after dark - shouldn't you be on Clapham Common?"

"At which point Ross Kemp [the ex-EastEnders actor and her then husband] said, 'Shut up, you homophobic cow'."

 

[Streathamite]

They make fuck all from newspapers.

You have GOT to be kidding. The tabloid/redtop end of the market is hugely profitable - it's their 'quality' brethren that are in financial trouble

 

[claphamboy]

This. If a union cannot demonstrate why it, and membership of it, are vital when 200 employees are being sacked solely to protect an executive then it should really just fuck off.

Many of those will be re-employed on the SoS, those that aren't would have been out anyway when the two newsrooms were combined TBF.

 

[Kizmet]

They're all in trouble. Do you really think that 20p, or even close, covers wages, printing, marketing and distribution?

Nope.

It's the advertising that they are after. And all titles are sold together as a group. Revenue of scale.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

Politcal editor of the NOTW just been on the BBC trying to blame it on "bad apples" and the old regime. He also got quite close to 'they were only following orders' though in this case it was more don't know who gave orders or if even they were given!

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

They're all in trouble. Do you really think that 20p, or even close, covers wages, printing, marketing and distribution?

Nope.

It's the advertising that they are after. And all titles are sold together as a group.

Never the less The Sun and until this week the NOTW are/were big money makers so obviously you're wrong. In fact they were helping to subsidise the Times, which should make things interesting over there.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Glen Mulcare is on C4 News at 7.30

He might say that hacking was approved by committee.

 

[Ranbay]

NOW makes about 600k a week from adverts.

 

[Idris2002]

Never the less The Sun and until this week the NOTW are/were big money makers so obviously you're wrong. In fact they were helping to subsidise the Times, which should make things interesting over there.

Good, let's hope this deals a death blow to the Times as well. Some of us haven't forgotten what they did to Parnell.

(and no, I'm not being funny)

 

[marty21]

I didn't think it'd go this far, no.

me neither.

The last issue is giving proceeds to charidee - is that an attempt to get off being done for wrong-doing - will paedos now be able to make a donation to child-line and get off, where will it end?

 

[Bakunin]

There's something else about the claims from Brian Paddick which, IMHO, would certainly serve to incriminate senior figures if Paddick's right. Paddick alleges that police officers were paid bribes in five-figure sums to some officers in return for confidential information. Now, there's no way on earth that regular bribes of that size could have been concealed from senior staff at the NOTW. No senior editor or newsroom boss is going to sign off paying anybody that amount of money without knowing what it's for, even the highest-paid hacks couldn't claim that on expenses without somebody noticing and asking questions.

So, it does look suspiciously like, judging by the size of the bribes said to have been paid, that there's no way on Earth that no senior figure at the NOTW wasn't aware of what was happening.

 

[ThirtyFootSmurf]

. (sorry double post)

 

[ymu]

Congratulations AK, Badgers et al. That's quite a handy first domino.

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News International (NI) have just announced the closure of the largest circulation English language newspaper in the world. NI have only owned this paper for a tiny fraction of its 168 year history. There is no longer even a business case for allowing this incompetent and corrupt organisation to take over any more British media, and surely now a very strong case for barring them from any media ownership in this country at all.

This is a democracy. It is inconceivable that we would allow an organisation that has preyed on our children, our dead, our bereaved, on any innocent, private individual who found themselves unwillingly in the public eye, to continue to operate here.

Please, have the courage shown by so many others in standing up to this vile, bullying corporation:

1. stop the BSkyB deal

2. force the sale of all British media currently owned by News International

Companies that break British law are not welcome here. There is no reason to deport criminal people but not criminal companies, and it would be obscene if any such argument were made. This is a democracy, and the will of the people must be be obeyed. No more News International assets on British soil. They have had too many chances, there can be no more.

No to the BSkyB acquisition and no to News International.

ymu