Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Pickman's model]

And why you were too thick to understand it was sarcasm

given the barking nonsense you've come out with in the past - for example friendships you've alleged which have no basis in fact, that arson incident - you're beyond parody.

 

[agricola]

Very angry statement from the NUJ:

NUJ condemns Murdoch’s closure of the News of the World

In a shock announcement this afternoon James Murdoch has informed staff at the News of the World that the newspaper is being wound up, with its last edition printed on Sunday.



Michelle Stanistreet, NUJ General Secretary said: “This shows the depths to which Rupert Murdoch and his lieutenants at News International are prepared to stoop. The announcement James Murdoch should be making today is the dismissal of Rebekah Brookes as chief executive of News International. The shocking revelations this week show beyond doubt the systemic abuse and corruption at the top of the operation ran by both Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson. Yet News International has persistently lied about the extent of this scandal and tried to pass it off as a problem created by a couple of rogue reporters.



“Closing the title and sacking over 200 staff in the UK and Ireland, and putting scores more freelances and casuals out of a job, is an act of utter cynical opportunism. Murdoch is clearly banking on this drawing a line under the scandal, removing an obstacle to the BskyB deal, and letting his senior executives off the hook. That simply won’t wash. It is not ordinary working journalists who have destroyed this paper’s credibility – it is the actions of Murdoch’s most senior people.



“James Murdoch was absolutely right when he said in his statement today that ‘Wrongdoers turned a good newsroom bad.’ Yet those wrongdoers are still there today, at the top of the News International empire and ordinary staff at the paper are paying with their livelihoods.



“The closure of the News of the World – a newspaper that has been in print now for 168 years – is a calculated sacrifice by Rupert Murdoch to salvage his reputation and that of News International, in the hope that readers will switch allegiance to a new seven-day operation at The Sun, the government will wave through the BskyB deal and he will widen his grip on the UK’s media landscape.



“It is ironic that 25 years after the Wapping dispute it is the behaviour of Rupert Murdoch and his management that has caused the closure of the newspaper. The NUJ will offer all support to its members at the News of the World facing compulsory redundancies and will be organising an emergency meeting of all journalists at the title to offer advice and support.”

http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=2152

Any chance of hacks at other Murdoch-owned media outlets going out on strike in sympathy?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

NUJ statement - http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=2152

 

[Ted Striker]

Not everyone's taste, but always gets me

 

[laptop]

Reaction from Justice Secretary Ken Clarke: "All they're going to do is rebrand it".

Which makes it certain that this has been a very, very stupid move.

 

[ThirtyFootSmurf]

watching BBC News24 and am very pleased to see that cynicism isn't dead. so far they have had the father of a dead soldier, the deputy culture secretary, and Max Fucking Clifford, saying that should this be just a rebranding exercise it (i.e. a "Sun on Sunday") will and must fail.

also, won't Tesco et al who hadn't pulled their ads from Sunday's edition feel like the fucking cunts they are now?

that said, pressure on NI, their advertisers, buyers, and first and foremost rebekah teflon brooks shouldn't let up now, if anything it has to increase. i don't generally "do" moral outrage, but the fucking spunk chumps who were responsible for this need to be put out of business and dragged before the courts.

worst though, NI may well still come out of this smelling of roses, BSkyB share price plummeting, so they can buy their 69% at bargain basement prices, consolidating their print products into just the Sun, thereby saving salaries, and get revenue from the now-to-be-established sun paywall, etc.

(ah also... first post. 'ullo! )

 

[Pickman's model]

Given that most "phone hacking" simply involves obtaining the mobile number of someone in the news, working out which network they are on, and then phoning the voicemail access number for that network, and typing in the "victim"s phone number and (if they have not set a PIN) listening to their voicemails, I can't believe that most of the papers (or their paid-but-not-directly-employed snoopers) have not been doing this. A lot.

The other papers must be breathing an (undeserved) sigh of relief.

It's rather like when protestors attack Tesco for being big, ruthless, ruining local high streets etc, and mostly ignore Sainsburys, Morrisons, Asda etc who are just as bad, just not the biggest.

Or the same when people slate McDs for selling overpriced, unhealthy food, bad employment practices etc, and ignore BK, KFC etc.

I'm sure most, if not all, of the papers have benefitted from information obtained in this way for years.

This has a lot further to go, I think.

Giles..

this was mentioned in chris bryant's speech yesterday but seems to have been forgotten in the notw feeding frenzy

 

[ericjarvis]

Advertisers who are choosing to pull out is fine. I'm against advertisers being bullied.

That is all.

Really? Personally I just see it as aggressive advertising against the advertisers. I'm against the right wing "just put up and shut up and be nice well behaved little comsumers" attitude. I've had enough of the owners of big companies telling me what to do, and of them paying politicians to tell me what to do, that I really couldn't give a fuck any more. I'd probably draw the line at members of their immediate families being threatened with physical violence, short of that I'm afraid it's just what goes around comes around.

 

[dylans]

watching BBC News24 and am very pleased to see that cynicism isn't dead. so far they have had the father of a dead soldier, the deputy culture secretary, and Max Fucking Clifford, saying that should this be just a rebranding exercise it (i.e. a "Sun on Sunday") will and must fail.

also, won't Tesco et al who hadn't pulled their ads from Sunday's edition feel like the fucking cunts they are now?

that said, pressure on NI, their advertisers, buyers, and first and foremost rebekah teflon brooks shouldn't let up now, if anything it has to increase. i don't generally "do" moral outrage, but the fucking spunk chumps who were responsible for this need to be put out of business and dragged before the courts.

worst though, NI may well still come out of this smelling of roses, BSkyB share price plummeting, so they can buy their 69% at bargain basement prices, consolidating their print products into just the Sun, thereby saving salaries, and get revenue from the now-to-be-established sun paywall, etc.

(ah also... first post. 'ullo! )

Good first post and hello

 

[Pickman's model]

watching BBC News24 and am very pleased to see that cynicism isn't dead. so far they have had the father of a dead soldier, the deputy culture secretary, and Max Fucking Clifford, saying that should this be just a rebranding exercise it (i.e. a "Sun on Sunday") will and must fail.

also, won't Tesco et al who hadn't pulled their ads from Sunday's edition feel like the fucking cunts they are now?

that said, pressure on NI, their advertisers, buyers, and first and foremost rebekah teflon brooks shouldn't let up now, if anything it has to increase. i don't generally "do" moral outrage, but the fucking spunk chumps who were responsible for this need to be put out of business and dragged before the courts.

worst though, NI may well still come out of this smelling of roses, BSkyB share price plummeting, so they can buy their 69% at bargain basement prices, consolidating their print products into just the Sun, thereby saving salaries, and get revenue from the now-to-be-established sun paywall, etc.

(ah also... first post. 'ullo! )

good to see a decent first post - have a hobnob etc

 

[Ted Striker]

http://twitter.com/#!/TheSunOnSunday

 

[xenon]

No it is not. It's really important that as few people buy it as possible. Buying it means accepting their fucking apology.

Exactly.

FFS peple. Buying it now makes a mockery of anything you've said against it. Symbology is important.

 

[agricola]

The AP wire is reporting that all 200 NOTW employees will be sacked.

 

[Pickman's model]

The AP wire is reporting that all 200 NOTW employees will be sacked.

it's a start i suppose

 

[London_Calling]

Who saw that coming.... phew.

I really, really feel like a party!

 

[Kizmet]

Unlikely.

 

[ericjarvis]

The people who are likely to be hurt are the low-paid workers of the companies. If you all stop shopping at Tescos, who do you think will bear the brunt of that?

Come off it. Whatever happened to the much vaunted free market? Now we all HAVE to shop at Tesco regardless just so they can stay in business? That's just plain insane. If I stop shopping at Tescos it just means Iceland, Lidl, Nour's and Low Price all get more money and can employ more staff.

 

[agricola]

Come off it. Whatever happened to the much vaunted free market? Now we all HAVE to shop at Tesco regardless just so they can stay in business? That's just plain insane. If I stop shopping at Tescos it just means Iceland, Lidl, Nour's and Low Price all get more money and can employ more staff.

Give her a break, she has probably just had some bad news.

 

[Pickman's model]

Give her a break, she has probably just had some bad news.

yeh, her bskyb shares are fucked and she's just got her p45

 

[dylans]

Give her a break, she has probably just had some bad news.

not really Brookes is still standing. Its the NOTW staff who are paying the price of saving her skin

 

[Ponyutd]

Brilliant news. The last Harry Potter film and the last News of The World edition on the same weekend.

 

[agricola]

not really Brookes is still standing. Its the NOTW staff who are paying the price of saving her skin

I meant EoY - I mean, have you seen her since the news broke?

 

[Kizmet]

That's simplistic. People not involved in wrongdoing will suffer. I'm not saying it's wrong or right... but it's worth keeping in mind in all the gloating. Hypocrisy is most rife in the victor.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

yeh, her bskyb shares are fucked and she's just got her p45

lol

 

[xenon]

watching BBC News24 and am very pleased to see that cynicism isn't dead. so far they have had the father of a dead soldier, the deputy culture secretary, and Max Fucking Clifford, saying that should this be just a rebranding exercise it (i.e. a "Sun on Sunday") will and must fail.

also, won't Tesco et al who hadn't pulled their ads from Sunday's edition feel like the fucking cunts they are now?

that said, pressure on NI, their advertisers, buyers, and first and foremost rebekah teflon brooks shouldn't let up now, if anything it has to increase. i don't generally "do" moral outrage, but the fucking spunk chumps who were responsible for this need to be put out of business and dragged before the courts.

worst though, NI may well still come out of this smelling of roses, BSkyB share price plummeting, so they can buy their 69% at bargain basement prices, consolidating their print products into just the Sun, thereby saving salaries, and get revenue from the now-to-be-established sun paywall, etc.

(ah also... first post. 'ullo! )

Good points. I've not read latest but I'd think the Sunday Sun might be a while before appearing wouldn't it? Aside the lagistics. They'll be a period of brand detoxification through the Daily Sun, once these initial couple of weeks are through. They'll set up advertising contracts again for the Sunday Sun, after a bit and they'll ease back in with,tales of new staff, new ethical standards, lessons learned etc. Whilst a few, maybe Brooks, get thrown to the courts or the wind. And Subjudicy taking care of any detailed public comments there after. the rug is pulled back over the whole wriving mound of thilf and the system at large goes on, relatively unscathed.

So I fear.

And hello BTW.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hypocrisy is most rife in the victor.

i haven't seen a copy of the victor in years, thought it had stopped coming out

 

[Pickman's model]

private eye are sure to bring something out about this, will make interesting reading

 

[ruffneck23]

i haven't seen a copy of the victor in years, thought it had stopped coming out

Due to the hypocrisy perhaps ?

 

[Kizmet]

Good points. I've not read latest but I'd think the Sunday Sun might be a while before appearing wouldn't it? Aside the lagistics. They'll be a period of brand detoxification through the Daily Sun, once these initial couple of weeks are through. They'll set up advertising contracts again for the Sunday Sun, after a bit and they'll ease back in with,tales of new staff, new ethical standards, lessons learned etc. Whilst a few, maybe Brooks, get thrown to the courts or the wind. And Subjudicy taking care of any detailed public comments there after. the rug is pulled back over the whole wriving mound of thilf and the system at large goes on, relatively unscathed.

So I fear.

And hello BTW.

Or, the lid is off the box and we see a raft of draconian laws introduced across all media in order to permit the illusion of privacy.

Twitter Ye Not.

And with that punning headline you can see clearly why I never got that sub's job at the Sun.

 

[laptop]

private eye are sure to bring something out about this, will make interesting reading

Unfortunately the latest edition hit the streets yesterday: next is in a fortnight. Might have been timed to spite them