Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[teqniq]

Decision on BSkyB takeover postponed by government until September... ?

I can think of two reasons why this would be happening:

a) The interested parties are hoping that, by then the public's ire will have faded and the whole thing will be a lot easier to push through.

b) NI's share price is not looking so good (as pointed out by Laptop). It may be that this would adversely effect the offer for the BskyB shares by NI and this is going to give them time to recover.

As for NOTW closing down; well that as pointed out by others is pure damage limitation with an eye to the takeover.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Small beer compared with BSkyB.

I'm not sure that's right. Although Sky News is incredibly biased, there is some expectation still of tv news that it will not overtly editorialise. No such restrictions exist for the printed media. Trevor Kavanagh is Murdoch's political spokesman. He works for the Sun, not Sky, and that is not a coincidence.

 

[gavman]

Try not to talk shit please.

I'm questioning the bullying tactics that are being called for by people like pk.

you can't bully someone more powerful than you. this is all about us standing up to a bully

 

[dylans]

The Guardian is reporting that Coulson will be arrested tomorrow

Andy Coulson has been told by police that he will be arrested on Friday morning over suspicions that he knew about, or had direct involvement in, the hacking of mobile phones during his editorship of the News of the World.

The Guardian understands that a second arrest is also to be made in the next few days of a former senior journalist at the paper.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/andy-coulson-arrest-phone-hacking

Now this is the good stuff. Only a step away from Cameron

 

[paolo]

I'm not sure that's right. Although Sky News is incredibly biased, there is some expectation still of tv news that it will not overtly editorialise. No such restrictions exist for the printed media. Trevor Kavanagh is Murdoch's political spokesman. He works for the Sun, not Sky, and that is not a coincidence.

I mean small beer moneywise.

(As for Sky News, it gets split off as an independent entity as part of the deal).

 

[agricola]

Any more news on this?

The Guardian have a story up now, and the Independent reported on it yesterday:

In Glasgow on Thursday, they presented documents to Strathclyde police outlining allegations about News of the World witnesses at the trial. It includes notes Sheridan's solicitor, Aamer Anwar, alleges detail services requested from the private detective Steve Whittamore by News of the World employees, including Rebekah Brooks, then known as Wade.

On four occasions, says Anwar, the name RebekahWade is mentioned in the notes and in one of the references her name is listed next to the words "Mob Conv" which Anwar alleged could refer to "mobile conversion".

Anwar said the dossier also includes private information allegedly accessed by the News of the World of individuals such as football players, heart surgeons, lord mayors and a murder victim. The documents also contain information on evidence given by News International executives at Sheridan's perjury trial. The MSP was jailed for three years in January for committing perjury during a defamation case against the Sunday newspaper.

For anyone who doesnt know, Whittamore ran a network that used a mix of corrupt police officers and staff, corrupt civil servants and corrupt employees at a variety of bodies, as well as people who could blag information out of any organization they didnt have a corrupt employee at. Wade (or Brooks as she will now) is alleged to have tried to get him to do "mobile conversion", which is basically a subscriber check on a mobile phone number, and something which they could only obtain via a blag, or by having someone bent at one of the telecommunications firms.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I mean small beer moneywise.
.

It's all interlinked. It was through Murdoch's political power that he was able to manipulate politicians into allowing him to build up a monopoly over televised sports. That political power rests on the perception of him as an opinion former, which is what makes politicians scared of him. That perception of him as an opinion former rests, largely in his control of the top-selling newspapers.

The Sun has to be the next target. If Murdoch loses the Sun, everything could unravel for him very quickly indeed. He could die a penniless man.

 

[ThirtyFootSmurf]

b) NI's share price is not looking so good (as pointed out by Laptop). It may be that this would adversely effect the offer for the BskyB shares by NI and this is going to give them time to recover.

On that note, News Corp's share price doesn't seem to suffer much: http://www.google.co.uk/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:NWSA (half a percentage point up now), and BSkyB has been fairly steady after yesterday's losses as well: http://www.google.co.uk/finance?q=LON%3ABSY

So I reckon it's fair to say the investors also believe this will blow over by September and Fox News will be allowed to take charge of British television.

 

[gavman]

Cameron's got to walk a tightrope, hopefully the it'll all blow up in his face.

he's riding a tiger, and might lose his paddle at any time

 

[gavman]

David Davis perhaps. Or Hague again as a temporary pair of 'safe hands'.

portillo has been positioning himself for years

 

[agricola]

Watching his interview on Sky now, the NOTW Features Editor Jules Stenson has clearly kept his job at News International.

 

[claphamboy]

portillo has been positioning himself for years

LOL - he's not even an MP.

 

[marty21]

Boris is poised to march in I reckon, I'm sure a supporter will step aside for him to get a safe seat.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Paul McMullan seems to be on a mission to appear on every news programme in the country

He really looks like the archetypal tabloid hack - scruffy, shifty, evasive

 

[killer b]

Paul McMullan seems to be on a mission to appear on every news programme in the country

He really looks like the archetypal tabloid hack - scruffy, shifty, evasive

scruffy & shifty perhaps. he isn't at all evasive though. amusingly un-evasive.

 

[little_legs]

scruffy & shifty perhaps. he isn't at all evasive though. amusingly un-evasive.

might be found dead in a gutter in the next 72 hrs, would not surprise me

 

[paolo]

@lbj The Times closed for a year (pre Murdoch) and survived. The Sun is/was a strong enough brand to similarly pick things up when the timing suits Murdoch. He doesn't flinch easily.

 

[gavman]

plenty of farmers might have a thing to say about that - Tescos and the other big supermarkets have driven down prices by reducing the amount they will pay to farmers for their fruit and veg -

and milk especially

 

[claphamboy]

might be found dead in a gutter in the next 72 hrs, would not surprise me

Is that you, Jazzz?

 

[8den]

It's been a few years since I had to go in there, but tonight is one of the nights I genuinely wished I was freelancing back in Sky News.

 

[killer b]

rumours of a sun subeditors walkout abound...

 

[little_legs]

Is that you, Jazzz?

 

[strung out]

rumours of a sun subeditors walkout abound...

yep http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=2153

In solidarity with colleagues at the News of the World, tonight Sub-Editors at The Sun newspaper have walked out of work in protest.

At the same time as the protest, inside the building, News of the World staff were being told about the redundancies.

The company has told staff they will receive a 90 day payment which covers the legally required consultation period for job cuts.

This exposes the cynical deceit of James Murdoch who earlier today said: “We will communicate next steps in detail and begin appropriate consultation.”

NUJ general secretary Michelle Stanistreet said: “This outrageous manipulation of the legal right to be consulted about redundancies shows the contempt that the Murdoch empire has for its loyal staff. True to form, he believes he can buy his way out of his obligations. This is an act of damage limitation to salvage Murdoch’s reputation and that of News International – both of which are now tarnished beyond repair.”

 

[killer b]

not just rumours!

http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=2153

 

[paolo]

and milk especially

Counter intuitively, Tesco pay the best, Co-Op pay the worst.

(According to an hour long expose documentary on dairy about a year ago. Maybe they got their facts wrong. Dunno.)

 

[claphamboy]

@lbj The Times closed for a year (pre Murdoch) and survived.

Not in any commercial sense, it only survives because Murdoch wants it too.

 

[agricola]

not just rumours!

http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=2153

That article is down at the moment. Good luck to them though.

 

[claphamboy]

not just rumours!

http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=2153

Server down.

YAY if this is true, no Sun tomorrow?

 

[agricola]

Server down.

YAY if this is true, no Sun tomorrow?

Its just that article, the rest of the NUJ site looks up.

 

[Citizen66]

Worked for me