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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
He doesn't, no. You don't get to his position without being a mean fucking bastard. But his power in the UK, which remains the centre of his business even if he's an American officially now, rests specifically on his control of the Sun/NOTW.
Even now, his power has greatly diminished. Cameron won't be doing what Murdoch tells him to. I'm not sure anyone will be doing what Murdoch tells them to at the moment. They'll all be too busy saving their own necks.
little_legs
Поехали!
Nick Clegg is probably thinking now 'Fuck me... if only I had my referendum scheduled for next year'
The Graun doesn't make money, nor does the Indy.
But that's not the point. What I'm saying is that it makes no sense for Murdoch to make moves a month or two ahead of getting bSkyb. He's not (yet) a desperate man. Probably very very pissed off though.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
BBC reporting that Sun workers have walked out over solidarity with NOTW workers?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Sing, canaries, sing!
ThirtyFootSmurf
noob
Interesting to see the political responses (or lack thereof) so far. Ed Milliband coming out guns blazing, very good bit of adlibbing when the news was sprung on him, but sadly later saying something along the lines of "people power" that forced the decision. Still, all in all, well handled. Also kudos to Chris Bryant who definitely seems passionate about the subject. And also some good outRAGE (rawr) from Two Jags throughout the day, and be it only for the comic relief.
On the other side of the aisle... some bland statement from Rebekah's BFF Call-me-Dave about how the judicial process will continue, and tumbleweeds as far as whatsisface thingy of the LibDems is concerned. Noted.
On the other side of the aisle... some bland statement from Rebekah's BFF Call-me-Dave about how the judicial process will continue, and tumbleweeds as far as whatsisface thingy of the LibDems is concerned. Noted.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Welcome to Urban, tfs. Quality posting so far. 
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
No sign of Miliband getting rid of his own ex-News International Press bod, though.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Un-balloted strike action?
That's undemocratic, the mean hand of bullying sub-eds forcing other workers to miss out on fulfilling the important role as they cling to a faded dream of socialist doggrel. We should encourage readers mums to cover the sub-eds jobs for the duration of the action, and distribute media encouraging abuse and disregard for the very real fight they are facing.
THE SOCIALISTIC WORKSHY SCUM!
That's undemocratic, the mean hand of bullying sub-eds forcing other workers to miss out on fulfilling the important role as they cling to a faded dream of socialist doggrel. We should encourage readers mums to cover the sub-eds jobs for the duration of the action, and distribute media encouraging abuse and disregard for the very real fight they are facing.
THE SOCIALISTIC WORKSHY SCUM!
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
And Ripper has just let 200 of buggers free!!!!
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
This thread is increasingly like the recreation room at an old folks' home.
"You're going to have fish for tea tonight, Lily, that's your favourite isn't it?"
"What are we having for tea tonight?"
"Fish, Lily, you're having fish tonight."
"Tonight's Thursday isn't it? Shouldn't we be having fish tonight?"
"Yes, Lily, tonight you are having fish."
"But we should be having fish! Thursday is definitely fish night!"
"You are right, Lily, you are having fish tonight, because it is Thursday night. Fish night."
"Look! In the dining room! I can definitely see fish being served! Why didn't you tell me we were having fish tonight?"
etc.
"You're going to have fish for tea tonight, Lily, that's your favourite isn't it?"
"What are we having for tea tonight?"
"Fish, Lily, you're having fish tonight."
"Tonight's Thursday isn't it? Shouldn't we be having fish tonight?"
"Yes, Lily, tonight you are having fish."
"But we should be having fish! Thursday is definitely fish night!"
"You are right, Lily, you are having fish tonight, because it is Thursday night. Fish night."
"Look! In the dining room! I can definitely see fish being served! Why didn't you tell me we were having fish tonight?"
etc.
gavman
pj slumpy
do you know the difference between evidence and a press article?
were you reading a legal argument or a newspaper article?
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
As others have pointed out, the importance of the News of the World to Murdoch is not the money it generates (quite a lot - but a small fraciton of what Sky makes) - but the size of its readship. Its gives it power to significently influence the news agenda and poltical process. Without that Murdochs power takes a hit.
Yes a Sunday Sun will surely appear in time, but it will have to do some catching up as they will lose readers to its rivals and it will still have the whiff of this whole scandal attached to it. I'm not sure many of the staff at NOTW will be re-employed - although judging by the vile toadying interview that their political editor gave to Channel 4 news it seems his job may be safe - (or even worse he was just trying to curry favour with the forces of mordor/news international).
Coulson to be arrested toomorrow apparently over bribing the cops. Surely Brooks will quickly follow? And doesn't James Murdochs admission that he paid hush money to victims of phone-hacking puts him in the frame? He says he was 'badly informed' - maybe he'll be trying to explain that to a judge.
Murdoch has always been seen as a canny operator - responding to attacks on his operation and scandals with ruthless effectiveness - but this more and more like headless chicken syndrome.
2 Days ago I was expecting Brooks resign, Coulson in prison and NI embarassed. Now I really dont know how far and how damaging this will be for NI - Murdochs power is ebbbing away in front of our eyes and it I think it is now within the realms of possibility that the old cunt himself might have his collar felt.
And Cameron and the Met are badly damaged with more to come.
Walkout at The Sun is interesting news as well. Worms turning left and right!
Yes a Sunday Sun will surely appear in time, but it will have to do some catching up as they will lose readers to its rivals and it will still have the whiff of this whole scandal attached to it. I'm not sure many of the staff at NOTW will be re-employed - although judging by the vile toadying interview that their political editor gave to Channel 4 news it seems his job may be safe - (or even worse he was just trying to curry favour with the forces of mordor/news international).
Coulson to be arrested toomorrow apparently over bribing the cops. Surely Brooks will quickly follow? And doesn't James Murdochs admission that he paid hush money to victims of phone-hacking puts him in the frame? He says he was 'badly informed' - maybe he'll be trying to explain that to a judge.
Murdoch has always been seen as a canny operator - responding to attacks on his operation and scandals with ruthless effectiveness - but this more and more like headless chicken syndrome.
2 Days ago I was expecting Brooks resign, Coulson in prison and NI embarassed. Now I really dont know how far and how damaging this will be for NI - Murdochs power is ebbbing away in front of our eyes and it I think it is now within the realms of possibility that the old cunt himself might have his collar felt.
And Cameron and the Met are badly damaged with more to come.
Walkout at The Sun is interesting news as well. Worms turning left and right!
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Wildcat strike at The Sun.
You couldn't make it up.
You couldn't make it up.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
gavman
pj slumpy
this is tag team stupidity
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Thing is, it wasn't 'people power' nor 'advertiser power', most weren't looking to have the rag closed down, they wanted heads at the top to roll, not heads at the bottom.
What seems like a clever move by the Murdochs could seriously back-fire on them here.
Oh, & welcome btw.
Sun sub editors walk out reported here too.
http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2011/...-out-in-protest-of-news-of-the-world-closure/
http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2011/...-out-in-protest-of-news-of-the-world-closure/
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
"Don't bother doing the NoTW crossword this weekend, you'll be waiting a while for the answers...."
Treacle Toes
Time
Shame they don't have the same empathy for other members of this society eh?
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Aye.
I'm hoping that they're now realising that their own boss is so anti-worker that even when the shit hits the fan he'll protect himself and his execs at the cost of their fellow workers?
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