Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Citizen66]

Have they returned to work?

 

[gavman]

Yes. But we have to remember that the real prize is Murdoch himself.

this

 

[Kaka Tim]

Aww - they were just teasing us.

 

[stethoscope]

I can't believe how much they're protecting Brooks

 

[agricola]

It seems more than a few of the editors are being kept on:

There is devastation and fear. It is grief for the newspaper, that is what it is. It's not anger, it's grief. We were devastated. There were tears, and I know from a personal level we had huge sympathy for Rebekah Brooks delivering that news.

Really? Really?

 

[Kaka Tim]

Loving the indie frontpage.

Closing the NOTW already looking like sheer panic from NI.

 

[gavman]

I've gone from planning a one-man protest outside the village shop, to intending to buy it now - after all every penny is going to good causes and I am interested in seeing what's in it.

don't fall for it. they will use the circulation figures to relaunch their advertising sales on the new title

 

[idumea]

I can't believe how much they're protecting Brooks

fevered speculation about what kind of dirt on what kind of people she must have to still have a job is one of the best bits of this whole thing (though I admit 'Sun staff on wild-cat strike' is into bizarro political wet-dream territory)

 

[ThirtyFootSmurf]

Andy Coulson to be arrested in the morning. Slowly making progress here. God, I've almost got a semi thinking about how Dave's gonna try and weasel out of that one. (Mind you, talking about arousal and Cameron in the same sentence will have made me unable to have sex for months, I guess).

 

[gavman]

this is brilliant fun

 

[sheothebudworths]

God, I've almost got a semi thinking about how Dave's gonna try and weasel out of that one.

 

[agricola]

Andy Coulson to be arrested in the morning. Slowly making progress here. God, I've almost got a semi thinking about how Dave's gonna try and weasel out of that one. (Mind you, talking about arousal and Cameron in the same sentence will have made me unable to have sex for months, I guess).

Quite easily, one imagines - for a start, he wasnt at CCHQ for that long, none of this went on whilst he was at CCHQ, and Cameron did at least give him a job. If anyone should be worried it is his ex-bosses at News International, who are clearly looking to pin this on him and who dont seem to have given him any reason not to grass them up.

 

[Bakunin]

fevered speculation about what kind of dirt on what kind of people she must have to still have a job is one of the best bits of this whole thing (though I admit 'Sun staff on wild-cat strike' is into bizarro political wet-dream territory)

Another interesting area is that, given the Murdoch Mafia and their history of making enemies, of just how many people there are who will have axes to grind and information to sell or otherwise make public. Fired employees, people who've been subjected to exposes and still bear a grudge, other media barons seeking commercial advantage by burying the Murdoch Mafia in a shitstorm, politicians seeking electoral advantage and to distance themselves from all the shit that's already flying around and so on.

It's said that people meet the same folk on the way down as they did on the way up, in which case the Murdoch Mafia are more than likely to be revisited by all manner of old acquaintances.

 

[claphamboy]

don't fall for it. they will use the circulation figures to relaunch their advertising sales on the new title

Don't be stupid, ad agencies don't work like that.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

this is brilliant fun

yes, very good indeed

i like the way that the dude videoing it also drops his remote with all the excitement towards the end....

 

[stethoscope]

http://www.hasrebekahbrooksbeensackedyet.com/

 

[sheothebudworths]

yes, very good indeed

i like the way that the dude videoing it also drops his remote with all the excitement towards the end....

'You're a bit dim!'

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

'You're a bit dim!'

great innit, nice to see an mp saying what people think without worrying about a backlash for a change.

 

[DarthSydodyas]

'You're a bit dim!'

almost as good as "dont lie"

 

[Bakunin]

And, as the sun sets upon another busy day at Murdoch Towers, the Murdoch Mafia finally reaches the incontrovertible conclusion after recent events:

 

[gavman]

LOL - he's not even an MP.

you see? clean pair of hands, untainted, so to speak. working outside the political machine..all that guff.
his current tv series seems to be as middle of the road as possible, to expand his appeal to anyone who uses trains

 

[gavman]

your money lol

your face lol

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

The Tory right has been sharpening their knives for him since he became leader. They knew they needed him to get a sniff of power, but if they can use this as a reason for an internal coup, to get one of their own in the driving seat, they will.

whilst I'd agree with you that many traditional tories would like to see disco dave being shown the door, i really can't see them wanting him ousted in these circumstances because of the wider impact it would have on their party. shit sticks and him being booted due to any perceived connection to this shit-storm would cause the tories untold grief at the ballot box i reckon.

 

[agricola]

At the risk of being accused of being tribal again - whilst its good to see Burley put in her place, dont forget that Chris Bryant MP is not exactly a paragon of virtue.

http://welshramblings.blogspot.com/2010/08/chris-bryant-st-athan-and-2500-donation.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/533...d-home-twice-to-claim-20000-MPs-expenses.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8053327.stm

 

[Kaka Tim]

Another interesting area is that, given the Murdoch Mafia and their history of making enemies, of just how many people there are who will have axes to grind and information to sell or otherwise make public. Fired employees, people who've been subjected to exposes and still bear a grudge, other media barons seeking commercial advantage by burying the Murdoch Mafia in a shitstorm, politicians seeking electoral advantage and to distance themselves from all the shit that's already flying around and so on.

It's said that people meet the same folk on the way down as they did on the way up, in which case the Murdoch Mafia are more than likely to be revisited by all manner of old acquaintances.

Yep. News interanational kicked to death by all the people its fucked over in the past.

Joy joy and joy.

 

[weltweit]

I wonder if closing the News of the World might somehow limit the liabilities to News Corporation of this whole affair?

It seems likely compensation claims might be big given that some hacked celebrity victims were reported as having received quite large payouts already. And then the organisation might have a penalty fine imposed on it by a court, you can't send a company to prison but you can fine it. You can of course send company officers to prison which seems a definate possibility.

So, does closing the News of the World somehow limit the eventual liabilities to News Corporation?

 

[ThirtyFootSmurf]

Quite easily, one imagines - for a start, he wasnt at CCHQ for that long, none of this went on whilst he was at CCHQ, and Cameron did at least give him a job. If anyone should be worried it is his ex-bosses at News International, who are clearly looking to pin this on him and who dont seem to have given him any reason not to grass them up.

Well, yes and no. Of course I want to choose my words carefully, since this is all going to be sub judice soon enough, so not saying Coulson's done anything criminal but suffice it to say the Met seem to have enough evidence to make an arrest, and Dave can't be happy to be seen to have made such a fundamental error of judgement. Coulson gave him, quote, "general assurances", that he wasn't involved in any wrongdoings. Clearly that may well turn out to be a lie. Now, the good folk of U75 don't need no convincing that Dave is a callous fuck who would sell his mother for political gain, but there may well be (some) people in middle England who judge people by the company they keep. And seeing the Davester being closely associated with someone who got arrested in connection with bribing the police and emotionally raping the feelings of dead childrens' families could swing some votes. So, yeah, wouldn't want to be Cameron myself.

 

[agricola]

I wonder if closing the News of the World might somehow limit the liabilities to News Corporation of this whole affair?

It seems likely compensation claims might be big given that some hacked celebrity victims were reported as having received quite large payouts already. And then the organisation might have a penalty fine imposed on it by a court, you can't send a company to prison but you can fine it. You can of course send company officers to prison which seems a definate possibility.

So, does closing the News of the World somehow limit the eventual liabilities to News Corporation?

Nope.

 

[Kaka Tim]

whilst I'd agree with you that many traditional tories would like to see disco dave being shown the door, i really can't see them wanting him ousted in these circumstances because of the wider impact it would have on their party. shit sticks and him being booted due to any perceived connection to this shit-storm would cause the tories untold grief at the ballot box i reckon.

No I cant see any move to oust him in the foreseeable - but the knives are definitely out for him within significent parts of the tory party - which is quite suprising but happy making.

 

[dylans]

Brilliant little history of Murdoch's business in the UK here with some great footage of the wapping dispute and some early interviews with him

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2011/01/rupert_murdoch_-_a_portrait_of.html