Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[killer b]

yesterday, it was all 'cameron begged murdoch not to sack brooks'

today it's 'brooks is like family to murdoch, he'll never sack her'

which is it?

 

[goldenecitrone]

Of course that would be fantastic. Unfortunately I would credit Cameron with enough sense to have ensured there is nothing directly linking him to any of this. I don't see Cameron falling over this matter.

What if Murdoch's minions have been hacking into Disco dave's mobile phone? That would be interesting.

 

[gavman]

As long as "film stars" and "celebrities" have existed, it's been acknowledged, by the media and the public at least, that their privacy, as public persons with public personas, is limited. This isn't to make excuses for the media, but to state that Grant (and many other people in the "public eye", could have, but didn't, take simple steps to protect his privacy.

For him therefore to call his privacy a "stolen" commodity reeks of the kind of arrogant self-regard that got him in the tabloid viewfinder in the first place.

does that include his medical records?
i think we can allow him his outrage there

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What if Murdoch's minions have been hacking into Disco dave's mobile phone? That would be interesting.

As agricola says, that might serve Cameron's purposes very nicely! In fact it could be terrible if this were the case - Cameron could come out the hero who cleaned up Fleet Street.

 

[goldenecitrone]

As agricola says, that might serve Cameron's purposes very nicely! In fact it could be terrible if this were the case - Cameron could come out the hero who cleaned up Fleet Street.

By going against Murdoch? Would he dare? The Prime Minister who stood up to the Dirty Digger and banished him from the British body politic. Hmmm.

 

[mauvais]

Apologies if already posted. Top advertisers: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-advertising, with the info I know below:

1. BSkyB £2.1m
2. Everything Everywhere £1.5m - under review
3. P&G £1.3m - under review
4. O2 £1.2m - pulled during developments
5. Tesco £1m - under review until investigation
6. Hutchinson 3G £1m
7. Boots £900,000 - no comment -> review -> pulled 07/07 according to BBC
8. ASDA £760,000 - suspended 07/07 according to Sky
9. Vodafone £660,000 - under review
10. Shop Direct £640,000
11. DFS £608,000
12. BT £584,000 - no comment
13. Harveys £582,000
14. Vauxhall £534,000 - pulled until investigation
15. Unilever £493,000 - no comment
16. Dixon Stores Group £484,000 - under review -> pulled until further notice 07/07
17. B&Q £475,000
18. Mars £443,000
19. Carpetright £433,000
20. TJ Hughes £404,000
21. Specsavers £392,000
22. SJM Concerts £365,000
23. Kellogg's £359,000
24. Halifax £329,000 - pulled for this week
25. M&Co £318,000
26. Carphone Warehouse £314,000
27. Next £314,000
28. Alberto Culver £314,000
29. Scs Furniture Stores £309,000
30. L'Oréal Paris £302,000
31. Debenhams £300,000
32. Beiersdorf UK £298,000
33. Weight Watchers £289,000
34. Dairy Crest £288,000
35. Sainsbury's £285,000 - pulled 07/07 until investigation complete
36. Toyota £282,000
37. Argos £280,000 - no ad plans, reviewing situation
38. Reckitt Benckiser £275,000
39. Virgin Media £274,000
40. Renault £266,000 - no ad plans, now explicitly cancelled until investigation
41. Fiat £253,000
42. Seaworld Parks and Entertainment £244,000
43. British Gas £234,000
44. Iceland £227,000
45. ITV £220,000
46. New Look £220,000
47. Keyline Brands £218,000
48. William Morrison Supermarkets £215,000 - explicitly continuing
49. Suzuki £214,000
50. Npower £206,000 - pulled

 

[Balbi]

They've found Georgie boy's details. Watch this space.

This will do to Cameron what the dodgy donations did to Blair, tarnish him with his core support. Can't see it being the end of all things, but there's certainly going to be a more cynical view of the press and politicians get slammed further down the ladder before the expenses scandal stuffs worn off.

Take a deep breath though, because you may not breathe air so full of schadenfreude for another generation.

 

[ska invita]

Did anyone hear Simon Hughes on newsnight say that a public inquiry needs to be run by a judge who isnt a freemason, and suggests this might be hard to find! Jazzz wouldve loved it.

 

[harpo]

What if Murdoch's minions have been hacking into Disco dave's mobile phone? That would be interesting.

They've benn hacking Osbourne, according to him.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

By going against Murdoch? Would he dare? The Prime Minister who stood up to the Dirty Digger and banished him from the British body politic. Hmmm.

He might have no choice. But Kaka Tim is spot on - Murdoch is only powerful for as long as enough people think he is powerful. He owns newspapers, not oil wells. If Murdoch is already discredited, standing up to him will be easy-peasy.

 

[paolo]

No, a limited investigation makes perfect sense. What doesn't make sense is the police failing to act on this information all those years ago.

Naivety, workload, lack of balls. And maybe fear, along the way.

The Police don't like playing by anyone else's agenda. The idea that they were in cahoots is 2+2=5. They've massively bollocksed up though. Prescott on Newsnight just now reckons that (finally) they are now taking the whole thing seriously. Nearly ten years too late mind.

 

[Balbi]

He might have no choice. But Kaka Tim is spot on - Murdoch is only powerful for as long as enough people think he is powerful. He owns newspapers, not oil wells. If Murdoch is already discredited, standing up to him will be easy-peasy.

Fucking hell, if he did that - he'd be as difficult as fuck to get out of Downing Street.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The Police don't like playing by anyone else's agenda. .

Eh? That's the Police's job.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Jaysus the scum are so helping us

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Fucking hell, if he did that - he'd be as difficult as fuck to get out of Downing Street.

Yep.

But if the end result genuinely were a more pluralistic media, it would weaken the likes of Cameron in the long run. Cameron has cosied up to Murdoch for a good reason.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Until every double-glazing firm and sex chat line has pulled out - this must continue.

lol.. the NOTW will look like the Sunday Sport on Sunday.....

We still have time on our side and a growing movement.....

 

[8115]

Was it only the News of the World or was it more widespread? I think there was something on Sky earlier about the Guardian, did I mishear?

 

[goldenecitrone]

Jaysus the scum are so helping us
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Straight out of his phone records, presumably. Murdoch's feeling invincible, obviously.

 

[agricola]

Prescott on Newsnight just now reckons that (finally) they are now taking the whole thing seriously. Nearly ten years too late mind.

Thats the thing though - Prescott was in government (a government that was in bed with Murdoch, dont forget) when all this was going on. It really winds me up watching him, and the rest of his mob, harp on about this as if 1997-2010 never actually happened.

 

[cointreauman]

Not sure if this has been posted but seems that the push to lean on the Chiefs of the big companies to pull advertising revenue might be assisted by a targetted email uprising - apologies if the links are alread in play on here

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en_GB&key=tNYNhuJL7bcUwlXMQJ4zF9g&toomany=true

That said if 100,000 emails blocked these accounts - would it have the desired effects?

I have to agree - the taking apart of the NI monolith and perhaps the total wipe out of The Sun and NoTW owuld make this old bloke a very happy man indeed. (A good few Scousers would indulge a smile or twoo as well).

http://twitpic.com/5lxpqg

C

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Thats the thing though - Prescott was in government (a government that was in bed with Murdoch, dont forget) when all this was going on. It really winds me up watching him, and the rest of his mob, harp on about this as if 1997-2010 never actually happened.

Yep. The layers of hypocrisy are staggering.

 

[paolo]

Eh? That's the Police's job.

I'm probably not explaining myself properly. If you look at things such as the legal formation of ACPO, their response to DNA european rulings etc, they're general behaviour is "we do what we think is right, and stuff anyone else who disagrees".

What I'm driving at is that they aren't a particularly compliant institution with regards to outside forces, and I as such I doubt they were in cahoots. More a case of being dumb.

 

[paolo]

Thats the thing though - Prescott was in government (a government that was in bed with Murdoch, dont forget) when all this was going on. It really winds me up watching him, and the rest of his mob, harp on about this as if 1997-2010 never actually happened.

Paxman did pull Prescott up on exactly that, Prescott swerved.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

they're general behaviour is "we do what we think is right, and stuff anyone else who disagrees".

I'm not sure I agree with that. The police's general behaviour, from what I can see, is to do what their political masters tell them is right. They're the most compliant institution there is, almost by definition: they don't make the law, they are just charged with enforcing it, and enforcing it in the way their masters deem appropriate.

 

[paolo]

I'm not sure I agree with that. The police's general behaviour, from what I can see, is to do what their political masters tell them is right. They're the most compliant institution there is, almost by definition: they don't make the law, they are just charged with enforcing it, and enforcing it in the way their masters deem appropriate.

Hmm. Something for another thread. I'm wary of derailing, but happy to debate elsewhere.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Hmm. Something for another thread. I'm wary of derailing, but happy to debate elsewhere.

Yes, fair enough. I would say only this - the police show their humanity in the degree to which they are prepared not to enforce the law in order to instead do what is right. I'm not sure what relevance that point has to this discussion, though.

 

[agricola]

Paxman did pull Prescott up on exactly that, Prescott swerved.

Good. Perhaps they will start on Tom Baldwin (edit: Labour press drone, ex-Times hack, ex-coke fiend and the man who outed David Kelly as Gilligans source before his death) tomorrow.

 

[Kaka Tim]

No way is cameron going to benefit from this. He's already made himself look complacent and out of step by refusing to call for (his freind) Brooks' head and thats before we even get onto the whole coulsen thing. And this is potentailly political gold for milliband.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

And this is potentailly political gold for milliband.

Is it? Is anything political gold for that clueless cretin?

He's just managed to make himself look bad over the teachers dispute.

 

[Pickman's model]

Is it? Is anything political gold for that clueless cretin?

arsenic would be