Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Kaka Tim]

Just seen someone from the telegraph really laying into cameron on bbc news 24 - 'his reputation is irritreavably damaged (by this scandal) and he needs to somehow pull himself out of the sewer' - interesting - are the rightwing knives out for disco dave?

 

[MikeMcc]

Spot on, cracking post. I'd given up on those cunts a while back. It's good to see them getting a kicking nationally.

When I get back I'm ghoing to have a chat with my local newsagent, see how he would be affected by a campaign against these evil little cunts.

It's amazing how a couple of weeks as changed perceptions away from evil MPs trashing the expenses laws to now being journalists breaking privacy laws, as if there was some sort of either / or situation. We can watch both of the unscrupulous bunches of bastards.

 

[pk]

Besides, the boss himself always was a poor man's Robert Maxwell.

Let's hope this episode is Murdoch's Lady Ghislane..

 

[QueenOfGoths]

Agree with Dylans and YMU - so fucking what if its mumsnet and middle england tweeting up a froth of self righteous ire? So what that advertisers are pulling out purely for comercial reasons? So what if the BBC and Channel 4 news have their own agenda for going after murdoch? And its great that politicians are sizing the opportunity to kick murdoch as hard in the bollocks as they possibly can.

Its a truly liberating to see Murdoch empire getting royallly fucked in the arse by exactly the same shit storm that they have used again and again and again against against anyone they have seeked to demonise in order to further their shitty right wing agenda - the poorest and most vuneralbe people in the country, against the families of dead football fans and murder victims, against the miners, against refugees, gay people, immigrants, the homeless, protestors, against victims of police stitch ups, violence and murder - fucking eat it you fucking cunts.

And to see murdoch and co being so utterly cack handed in their efforts to defuse the row is just beautiful.

Agree with Dylans that this could be the UKs watergate -we dont know how much more shit is going to come out. Real possibility that the met and possibly cameron could be next in line.

In the past two years public confidence in key pillars of power in the land has been shattered - the banks, the MPs and now the media - with the cops taking a major hit into the bargain.

Excellent post.

Yup it's just so fucking great to see the fuckers squirm!

 

[Badgers]

There are now other sources of sleb gossip crap.

It needs to be a situation where even holding a copy of these rags will result in a row. On a train or bus, don't let it slip by, make it socially and morally wrong to buy this shit and trend it and Facepage it.

The herd mentality will eventually get the message. Don't even give the leeches a foothold.

If the Arabs can have their Spring we can take these evil fuckers down and have our Summer.

Have you seen a Sun in public this week?
I have been on a dozen trains and buses and not seen one.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

diddums.....

 

[pk]

Leaflets, nice little flowery leaflets appealing for local shops to refuse NOTW papers - start small.

Don't make them black and red, and don't put any fucking political slogans on them.

Leave the bright coloured leaflets where the community can make use of them. Every little helps, and those Tesco cunts might want to wipe their smug grins off too, they're not far down the list of matters to be addressed.

 

[teqniq]

Paul McMullen (former features editor at the NOTW) gets kinda pwned by Hugh Grant on the TV. Worth a look:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14052690

That's great

McMullen manages to make shifty rodent types look respectable.

 

[OneStrike]

apparently BBc news might present evidence families of dead soldiers were tapped, should cause further stinkage.

Edit: they went with it in the introduction as i typed that.

 

[ymu]

After all this stuff, can we have a British summer? There is wide scale corruption going on with th pigs, governments and journalists. Isnt about time we fucked them off?

That does sound like a good idea. I do hope lots of people have it.

 

[stethoscope]

Dead soldiers' families 'hacked by newspaper'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14052909

Phones owned by relatives of dead UK soldiers were allegedly hacked by the News of the World, a national newspaper reports.

The Daily Telegraph claims the phone numbers of relatives of dead were found in the files of private investigator Glenn Mulcaire.

This comes after Prime Minister David Cameron said he would set up a public inquiry into alleged phone hacking.

Rupert Murdoch, the paper's owner, has called claims of hacking "deplorable".

Speaking after earlier claims of phone hacking, he said: "Recent allegations of phone hacking and making payments to police with respect to the News of the World are deplorable and unacceptable."

In a statement, Mr Murdoch, chairman of News Corporation, News International's parent company, said: "I have made clear that our company must fully and proactively co-operate with the police in all investigations and that is exactly what News International has been doing and will continue to do under Rebekah Brooks's leadership.

'Shocked and appalled'
"We are committed to addressing these issues fully and have taken a number of important steps to prevent them from happening again."

After details of the Telegraph story emerged, a senior source at News International told BBC political editor Nick Robinson: "The military is a cause central to the heart of News International. If this story is correct we are absolutely shocked and appalled that that tradition has been besmirched".

"The News of the World and the Sun have prided themselves on their support for Help the Heroes, campaigns for the military covenant and other military causes."

Meanwhile, Scotland Yard has told George Osborne that his name and home phone number appeared on notes kept by Mulcaire and former News of the World reporter Clive Goodman, a spokesman for the chancellor said.

He said there was no suggestion that his phone had been hacked.

The prime minister has expressed disgust at claims that the voicemail of murdered girl Milly Dowler was hacked, and some messages deleted.

 

[pk]

Leaflets, nice little flowery leaflets appealing for local shops to refuse NOTW papers - start small.

Don't make them black and red, and don't put any fucking political slogans on them.

Leave the bright coloured leaflets where the community can make use of them. Every little helps, and those Tesco cunts might want to wipe their smug grins off too, they're not far down the list of matters to be addressed.

 

[MikeMcc]

The biggest thing is that the police (the Met in particular) have been scene to be an utterly complacent bunch of bastards in dealing with this. They've danced around the Murdoch print shops, but I doubt any of the others have been any better. If anything this is worse than the problems raised by the Stephen Lawrence case (inbuild old school racism) or the d'Menenzies (?sp) killing ( a grand cluster-fuck of mistakes). This is a case of the police either being too scared of the Murdoch Empire or, even worse, paid off.

There should be legislation to definifively put an end to this (a privacy bill).
- A police investigation of the practices of all newspapers (not the content, but the methods of investigation).
- A public judical review of the police investigations to date to look at the short-comings.

 

[Fingers]

Families of dead servicemen now according to the Telegraph. That is not going to go down at all well.

 

[sleaterkinney]

The biggest thing is that the police (the Met in particular) have been scene to be an utterly complacent bunch of bastards in dealing with this. They've danced around the Murdoch print shops, but I doubt any of the others have been any better. If anything this is worse than the problems raised by the Stephen Lawrence case (inbuild old school racism) or the d'Menenzies (?sp) killing ( a grand cluster-fuck of mistakes). This is a case of the police either being too scared of the Murdoch Empire or, even worse, paid off.

There should be legislation to definifively put an end to this (a privacy bill).
- A police investigation of the practices of all newspapers (not the content, but the methods of investigation).
- A public judical review of the police investigations to date to look at the short-comings.

It's not complacency, it's corruption.

 

[teqniq]

Have you seen a Sun in public this week?
I have been on a dozen trains and buses and not seen one.

I threw one in the bin when I got into work (left behind by the person I was taking over from). I might try having a chat with him but I don't have high hopes.

 

[pk]

Dead soldiers' families 'hacked by newspaper'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14052909

What's this "a senior source" bullshit?

Who was the spokesman???

They're finished. Smash anything that moves. Put em out of their misery.

 

[marty21]

Families of dead servicemen now according to the Telegraph. That is not going to go down at all well.

the public didn't really care when it was celebs and royals - but now it's dead children and dead soldiers - it has become a real shit storm - can't see how they can allow the BskyB deal to go through atm - the government has become quite skilled at u-turns - this will be another one.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The biggest thing is that the police (the Met in particular) have been scene to be an utterly complacent bunch of bastards in dealing with this.

It's actually spelled complicit. Com-pli-cit.

 

[MikeMcc]

Just seen someone from the telegraph really laying into cameron on bbc news 24 - 'his reputation is irritreavably damaged (by this scandal) and he needs to somehow pull himself out of the sewer' - interesting - are the rightwing knives out for disco dave?

Maybe at the telegraph praying that they won't be put under the same examination that Murdochs rags are.

 

[moochedit]

What's this "a senior source" bullshit?

someone who would only talk to the bbc if it was "off the record" ?

 

[marty21]

Maybe at the telegraph praying that they won't be put under the same examination that Murdochs rags are.

MPs would love to have a go at the Telegraph - it fucked them over expenses, but they'll make do with the NOTW atm

 

[MikeMcc]

It's actually spelled complicit. Com-pli-cit.

I think I would have had more of a complaint about 'scene' rather than 'seen', but I get your point.

 

[pk]

This shit should have happened whey they smeared Hillsborough and Liverpool.

And yet they climbed out of that one. Not this time. The repercussions of this will affect a lot of sport.

There's no reason Murdoch wouldn't fuck up league finances out of sheer spite.

It's clear he doesn't give a shit, for anyone's dignity.

 

[MikeMcc]

the public didn't really care when it was celebs and royals - but now it's dead children and dead soldiers - it has become a real shit storm - can't see how they can allow the BskyB deal to go through atm - the government has become quite skilled at u-turns - this will be another one.

Bet Vince Cable is grinning ear-to-ear.

 

[pk]

someone who would only talk to the bbc if it was "off the record" ?

Precisely.

Murdoch bears more than a passing resemblance to Mubarak these days too...

 

[marty21]

Bet Vince Cable is grinning ear-to-ear.

he must be absofuckinglutely loving this - doesn't have to do anything , they are fucking themselves and the deal.

 

[Badgers]

he must be absofuckinglutely loving this - doesn't have to do anything , they are fucking themselves and the deal.

It is great isn't? I am really happy (while sorry for those affected) and fancy doing some more wacky fun stuff to further the cause.

 

[agricola]

The biggest thing is that the police (the Met in particular) have been scene to be an utterly complacent bunch of bastards in dealing with this. They've danced around the Murdoch print shops, but I doubt any of the others have been any better. If anything this is worse than the problems raised by the Stephen Lawrence case (inbuild old school racism) or the d'Menenzies (?sp) killing ( a grand cluster-fuck of mistakes). This is a case of the police either being too scared of the Murdoch Empire or, even worse, paid off.

There should be legislation to definifively put an end to this (a privacy bill).
- A police investigation of the practices of all newspapers (not the content, but the methods of investigation).
- A public judical review of the police investigations to date to look at the short-comings.

I have said this on the other thread, but this is not that simple as a corrupt or complacent Met. The short version of the argument is this:

What the tabloid media - this is after all not limited to the NOTW, or even News International - have been up to is much bigger, and much worse in moral and legal terms, than what we have seen so far, and it has gone on for at least ten to fifteen years. Large numbers of journalists are probably involved, as probably is an informal network of corrupt politicians, civil servants, cops, private detectives and employees of various other organizations who facilitated what went on. The last completed investigation into what went on (by the Information Commissioner and the Met in 2003) into this particular area came up against a lot of legal pressure from the media itself (so much so that none of them were actually charged), suffered from a chronic lack of support from the government (which was of course a Labour government at the time) and politicians generally, and took place against a backdrop of almost total silence in the media itself (it was only Nick Davies in the Guardian who covered it in any depth). This investigation resulted in conditional discharges for those involved, even though it found that a corrupt police employee had been selling information from police databases to journalists, via a private detective.

Given the above, is it that surprising that - faced with everything else it has to do - the Met apparently decided to conduct a limited investigation based on a sample of the information it had from Mulcaire? The alternative (ie: a full investigation into everything) would almost certainly involve hundreds of detectives, working for an extended (months/years) amount of time, with an uncertain outcome at the end of it and would have to come up against the tabloid media as a whole. A public inquiry would come up against the same problem, btw.

 

[Ted Striker]

Why is the focus solely on NotW (and not The Sun)?

I assumed everyone's all in the same office and NotW - The Sun on Sunday? Or with Chinese walls at best? Surely it's not possible that such tactics were rife at NotW and staff didn't talk to each other and The Sun were up to it too?

Whilst NotW do perhaps specialise in less timely investigative pieces, the Sun would have staff doing similar?