Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[rorymac]

Behave yourself butchers .. it's an irrelevent aside !

 

[Badgers]

I need to know if any pizza places advertise?

 

[dylans]

Rupert Murdoch has said that Rebekah Brooks will stay as chief executive of News International. In a statement, he said that she will be in charge of the company's efforts to restore its reputation

Well that makes sense. I can think of no one better able to restore the NOTW to its former place as the nations foremost shining light of journalistic integrity and honesty. I wish her well in her endeavor. I think we can all agree that The nation needs her at this time.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-live

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Dear Mr. AKA,
Thank you for your email to our Managing Director, Thierry Sybord, on the subject of the alleged phone hacking by the News of the World.
In response to your request and to clarify our advertising position with the News of the World, we have made the following statement:
Renault acknowledges the concerns raised regarding the allegations of phone hacking by the News of the World. As a result of the seriousness of the continued allegations, we can confirm that Renault has no media advertising currently planned with the News of the World, nor will we commit to any future activity, until the outcome of the formal investigations is complete.

Once again we would like to thank you for having taken the time to share your view on this subject with us.

 

[laptop]

Just listening to BBC News now - Murdoch's still backing Brooks to stay on as Chief Exec at N.I., though he's muttered something about being "concerned".

So she has his "full confidence"?

 

[London_Calling]

Butchers will be pissed by now so expect the usual evening menu of sneering and abuse.

Why do people buy into this self-serving 'we're pulling our advertising' nonsense - do you really think it'll last longer than a month?

FFS get back to the substance.

 

[skyscraper101]

Paul McMullen (former features editor at the NOTW) gets kinda pwned by Hugh Grant on the TV. Worth a look:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14052690

 

[editor]

Paul McMullen (former features editor at the NOTW) gets kinda pwned by Hugh Grant on the TV. Worth a look:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14052690

That's some quality pwnage. And Hugh Grant's reinvention as a campaigner is another unexpected twist.

 

[ymu]

I've got fuck all time or sympathy with Rebekah Brooks, but can we fucking leave out the attacks on her looks. I thought/hoped this forum rose above this shit.

Thanks for that.

by announcing that they are withdrawing their ads from NOTW, these companies are getting a load of free advertising

So what. Use their strengths against them.

There's one huge great big set of very powerful dominoes set up to topple here, but it is going to take one almighty shove to get the first one going. It's pointless agonising about the moral purpose of the advertisers who might provide that.

Just like it is pointless taking the focus off Murdoch, the Met and Downing Street just because The Mail et al are also guilty as sin. They'll get theirs, but right now we need a wedge strategy.

The government was very wobbly before this. Let's not hold fire, or be too fussy about the ammunition, when there's a chance to get them on the ropes. We need maximum collateral damage here.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

So she has his "full confidence"?

I think we can say a super, soaraway "Yes" to that one.

 

[ymu]

I think we can say a super, soaraway "Yes" to that one.

Massive error on Murdoch's part, I think. I think he made that statement having decided to throw Coulson to the wolves, but probably before he knew it would come out about Brooks's interview with the police about NOTW interfering in (yet) a(nother) murder investigation.

He's playing this very badly indeed so far, AFAICS.

 

[dylans]

Thanks for that.

So what. Use their strengths against them.

There's one huge great big set of very powerful dominoes set up to topple here, but it is going to take one almighty shove to get the first one going. It's pointless agonising about the moral purpose of the advertisers who might provide that.

Just like it is pointless taking the focus off Murdoch, the Met and Downing Street just because The Mail et al are also guilty as sin. They'll get theirs, but right now we need a wedge strategy.

The government was very wobbly before this. Let's not hold fire, or be too fussy about the ammunition, when there's a chance to get them on the ropes. We need maximum collateral damage here.

Spot on. It doesn't matter that the advertisers have self interest in their minds. It doesn't matter that the Mail and the rest of the press is also shit. It doesn't matter that the Guardian and the BBC have their own motives for attacking Murdoch. These are weapons and I will take whatever weapons are available. Right now Murdoch is wounded and bleeding and the task right now is to open the wound as wide as possible and that means focusing on his relationships with the powerful. We may be on the verge of Britains Watergate here so stay on target

 

[co-op]

Paul McMullen (former features editor at the NOTW) gets kinda pwned by Hugh Grant on the TV. Worth a look:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14052690

Bloody hell, McMullen really is a what Central Casting would send along if you asked for a shifty little creep.

 

[co-op]

We may be on the verge of Britains Watergate here so stay on target

+1

The really interesting stuff is surely issues like the extent to which Coulsden (and/or cronies) was using phone hacks on Labour politicians during the election, or of senior civil servsnts and/or the lib-dem leadership during the coalition negotiations.

The Milly Dowler/Soham/July 7th stuff is instinctively revolting, but the political constitutional stuff is a potential bombshell.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Not to derail, but Hugh Grant has aged terribly...

e2a: still, a comprehensive kneecapping of McMullen. Fair play.

 

[killer b]

mcmullen is hilarious. if i was the digger i'd be offering him oodles of cash to shut the fuck up - he's doing immesurable damage to the NOTW. tbh, i wonder if that's what he's trying to do?

 

[Badgers]

Spot on. It doesn't matter that the advertisers have self interest in their minds. It doesn't matter that the Mail and the rest of the press is also shit. It doesn't matter that the Guardian and the BBC have their own motives for attacking Murdoch. These are weapons and I will take whatever weapons are available. Right now Murdoch is wounded and bleeding and the task right now is to open the wound as wide as possible and that means focusing on his relationships with the powerful. We may be on the verge of Britains Watergate here so stay on target

I agree, it shows weakness as well as disgusting corruption. The papers have had a fuck you mentality to their crude and agenda driven reporting. I hope this changes thinking on press matters by all parties. Political, police, media and corporates need to realise the public are not all silent obedient fools.

 

[dylans]

I agree, it shows weakness as well as disgusting corruption. The papers have had a fuck you mentality to their crude and agenda driven reporting. I hope this changes thinking on press matters by all parties. Political, police, media and corporates need to realise the public are not all silent obedient fools.

I don't think the public have ever been fools. Indifferent yeah but the real silent obedient fools are the Politicians of all parties who have been running scared of him and his rags for years. I was just reading the following Simon Hoggart article in the guardian.

In 1992 Kelvin McKenzie, who edited the Sun for Rupert Murdoch, was phoned by the prime minister, John Major, who asked him how he intended to cover Britain's ignominious exit from the European exchange rate mechanism. He replied, "I've got this big bucket of shit … and I'm going to pour it all over your head."

Well, there was no doubt about who held the bucket on Wednesday. MPs lined up one after the other, each with their own pail, filled with the foulest, rankest, most pungent manure.

Or in John Bercow's catchphrase, "Ordure, ordure!"

And it was a liberating experience. For years MPs have been terrified of the Murdoch press – terrified they might lose support, terrified, in some cases, that their private lives might be exposed. But that has gone.

News International has crossed a line and MPs feel, like political prisoners after a tyrant has been condemned to death by a people's tribunal, that they are at last free. Not before time. Zac Goldsmith, a newcomer, said that Murdoch had "gelded this parliament – to our shame". Well, they've got their testicles back.

What a damning indictment of this countries political representatives, that they admit they have been cowering in the shadow of this grubby man and his sewer press for decades and only now, dare speak out. What does that tell us about their integrity?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/06/simon-hoggart-murdoch-phone-hacking

 

[Badgers]

I don't think the public have ever been fools. Indifferent yeah but the real silent obedient fools are the Politicians of all parties who have been running scared of him and his rags for years. I was just reading the following Simon Hoggart article in the guardian.


What a damning indictment of this countries political representatives, that they admit they have been cowering in the shadow of this grubby man and his sewer press for decades and only now, dare speak out. What does that tell us about their integrity?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/06/simon-hoggart-murdoch-phone-hacking

As usual that is better worded than me. Fear of public opinion has tied political hands on the worst of the gutter press. If NI have political anger, and other anger alongside massive loss of revenue then effect will knock on to the Associated publications. I wish I had more spare time to turn the knife I really do.

 

[stethoscope]

mcmullen is hilarious. if i was the digger i'd be offering him oodles of cash to shut the fuck up - he's doing immesurable damage to the NOTW. tbh, i wonder if that's what he's trying to do?

Just been watching him on c4 news - neither makes NOTW or himself look good.

 

[strung out]

Just been watching him on c4 news - neither makes NOTW or himself look good.

i think he craves the notoriety tbh. epitomises these tabloid journalists - doesn't give a shit about morals and will do anything for a story/sales/attention

 

[dylans]

Just been watching him on c4 news - neither makes NOTW or himself look good.

It's because he is strangely honest and unrepentant about being thoroughly dishonest and horrible. Who could sit there with a straight face and claim that hacking a murdered girls phone was "no big deal" and, worse, mean it? At least he doesn't wring his hands and pretend fake outrage like the rest of his colleagues.

 

[killer b]

he's a pub landlord now, so it's not the stories or sales. must be just the attention... i can't imaging much of it will be positive though: the amount of people yelling 'cunt' at him as they pass him in the street must've shot up the past few days...

 

[Santino]

Actors will be queueing up to play him in the film.

 

[ymu]

It's because he is strangely honest and unrepentant about being thoroughly dishonest and horrible.

Aye. It's brilliant.

He personifies the attitude, and keeps insisting anyone would do it. It's not unlike the complete disconnect at the other end of the power ladder. Murdoch et al don't seem to have got to grips with the idea that their power is assailable, it's still unthinkable.

This is the kind of truth-revealing that leads ex-Zionists to respond with fury when they realise just how badly they've been lied to. Please, please, please let Middle England take this bit between its teeth.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Bloody hell, McMullen really is a what Central Casting would send along if you asked for a shifty little creep.

Grant: "You should try real journalism, you're not an idiot Paul, you could probably do it"

hilarious.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Grant: "You should try real journalism, you're not an idiot Paul, you could probably do it"

hilarious.

Is that the News of the World and the Sun then? A home for journalists with low self-esteem. Care in the community/ corporation for cunts.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

And Easy Jet flies away:

Thank you for your email to Carolyn McCall, Chief Executive Officer.

We would like to assure you that we fully understand the concerns that you have raised, these are also shared by many of our own staff and passengers. Whilst we have advertised in the News of the World in the past we have no current plans to do so and are actively monitoring the situation and await the outcome of the police investigations.

Yours Sincerely

easyJet Customer Services

Hit em where it hurts.. no matter how short term! keep the pressure on!

 

[Barking_Mad]

Poor old NoTW journos will have to go out and find some real stories to fill the blank space left by dropped ads

 

[Citizen66]

Im sure they could fill a few wriggling pages this week about their very selves.

Loads of people will want to see them sink including natural allies. How much crap have they brought upon the royals over the years?