Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[London_Calling]

that's not the paper itself though, just a print copy of the front page

The person second across has it open. I thought...

 

[butchersapron]

Actually it is about the money - especially when the lawyers will be hauling money away by the barrow-load, and we will be no nearer the truth of what has gone on.

No, it's about saving people. PR triage. Money doesn't matter right now. Do you really think Cameron cares how much of your money he's prepared to spend to dig defensive trenches around him and his? He really really doesn't.

 

[gavman]

You mean the post that doesn't end with a question mark? You're on fire today.

My view? My view on what? My views about what i've been posting about have been explained and defended. Yours?

you come across as someone who just wishes to sneer at everyone else without advancing the debate in any way

 

[butchersapron]

 

[butchersapron]

you come across as someone who just wishes to sneer at everyone else without advancing the debate in any way

That's allright gav, you don't need to look at or defend your own words.

 

[London_Calling]

You mean the post that doesn't end with a question mark? You're on fire today.

My view? My view on what? My views about what i've been posting about have been explained and defended. Yours?

Who do you think this impresses? Really? Do you walk away thinking 'that was convincing'.

 

[agricola]

No, it's about saving people. PR triage. Money doesn't matter right now. Do you really think Cameron cares how much of your money he's prepared to spend to dig defensive trenches around him and his? He really really doesn't.

er - you were the person who suggested splitting one (of the two) enquiries into three, not Cameron.

edit: or two enquries into three, sorry

 

[gavman]

not in response to you, no

e2a @ butch

 

[butchersapron]

er - you were the person who suggested splitting one (of the two) enquiries into three, not Cameron.

No, this is what is going to happening.

 

[gavman]

dp

 

[co-op]

Can anyone explain what butchers is on about?

 

[gavman]

i'm all ears...

 

[butchersapron]

Oh jeez it's the pack.

 

[London_Calling]

It's those crazy not pissed on cheap cider people!!1!

 

[gavman]

how dare we try to communicate with each other in a clear and consistent fashion

 

[agricola]

No, this is what is going to happening.

I have my doubts - this will probably be just your typical agreeable judge, limited scope, "lessons must be learned" thing.

 

[butchersapron]

I have my doubts - this will probably be just your typical agreeable judge, limited scope, "lessons must be learned" thing.

There's two on the go, at least one more is being kept in reserve - given the trifling shit the first two announced are concerned with. IMO.

 

[butchersapron]

how dare we try to communicate with each other in a clear and consistent fashion

You can always try gav.

 

[agricola]

There's two on the go, at least is being kept one in reserve -give the trifling shit the foist two announced are concerned with. IMO.

One is judge-led, one is a panel of "experts" discussing media ethics. (edit) What need does he have for another one?

 

[co-op]

Oh jeez it's the pack.

*bays the moon*

Um it's not. You spend a lot of time on here so you doubtless have all sorts of previous with posters that I am unaware of but the standard of the thread has really dropped on your couple of visits. Not really sure what you think about anything and wondering what you're posting for.

 

[butchersapron]

One is judge-led, one is a panel of "experts" discussing media ethics. (edit) What need does he have for another one?

Yep, they're the light two. The real serious i'm being proper hard now inquiry, just look at my face one from cameron will come in due course.

 

[butchersapron]

*bays the moon*

Um it's not. You spend a lot of time on here so you doubtless have all sorts of previous with posters that I am unaware of but the standard of the thread has really dropped on your couple of visits. Not really sure what you think about anything and wondering what you're posting for.

As you're too lazy to read the thread, or if you have you can't remember what was posted a few hours ago, here's a little help

 

[agricola]

Yep, they're the light two. The real serious i'm being proper hard now inquiry, just look at my face one from cameron will come in due course.

You will forgive me if I dont hold my breath whilst waiting for this prediction of yours to come true.

 

[butchersapron]

You will forgive me if I dont hold my breath whilst waiting for this prediction of yours to come true.

Don't have to. It's ok. British PMs rarely kick things to inquiries to turn the heat off them. To suggest they might is crazy.

 

[co-op]

As you're too lazy to read the thread, or if you have you can't remember what was posted a few hours ago, here's a little help

Thanks, I read that and so I got the reference. But I still haven't really worked out what you think about anything, I wasn't really asking you to explain because you don't seem up to that (or I'd know already IYSWIM) - just wondering if anyone else was making sense of your interventions.

Toodlepip.

 

[butchersapron]

Thanks, I read that and so I got the reference. But I still haven't really worked out what you think about anything, I wasn't really asking you to explain because you don't seem up to that (or I'd know already IYSWIM) - just wondering if anyone else was making sense of your interventions.

Toodlepip.

What are the issues that you need clarification on co-op? Beyond not being able to get it from my posts i mean?

edit: Maybe i'm a secret murdoch agent? Wtf is there to talk about her beyond reporting what's going an and talking about posters reactions to that?

 

[agricola]

Don't have to. It's ok. British PMs rarely kick things to inquiries to turn the heat off them. To suggest they might is crazy.

That makes no sense. If you are being sarcastic, he has already opened two inquiries over this issue, one of which looks like it will be your standard agreeable inquiry that blames the system. If you arent being sarcastic, what was Hutton again?

Sorry if the above sounds as if I am taking the piss, its just you have been incomprehensible lately and I genuinely do not understand half of the points you are trying to make.

 

[co-op]

Sorry if the above sounds as if I am taking the piss, its just you have been incomprehensible lately and I genuinely do not understand half of the points you are trying to make.

+1

 

[butchersapron]

That makes no sense. If you are being sarcastic, he has already opened two inquiries over this issue, one of which looks like it will be your standard agreeable inquiry that blames the system. If you arent being sarcastic, what was Hutton again?

Sorry if the above sounds as if I am taking the piss, its just you have been incomprehensible lately and I genuinely do not understand half of the points you are trying to make.

From the start, why no single inquiry?
Answer? He wants to split them up so they produced diff results at diff times, without linking the context

Why would he not have third one hidden away in in his armoury that is supposed to overcome the shortcomings that he knows these two expose - esp given that there is supposed to be a lot more serious stuff coming.

This is a simple point - it's not mental, it's not incomprehensible. You an agree or disagree with it, it's not zany or left-field though. It's defenisble and there's evidence to support it. Don't go down this road roman.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

A senior Miliband aide received a "very hostile" threat, not veiled at all, from a News International journalist warning: "You have made it personal about Rebekah, so we'll make it personal about you."
sweet....