Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[smokedout]

why not? is it beyond the competence of parliament?

probably not if max mosley's political demands were ever realised

 

[Pickman's model]

obviously uk media are overlooking the massive demand for quality reporting and only catering for the ignorant few who actually buy the newspapers currently on sale

and how does this show that we 'deserve' the press we have? i assume you mean we get the press we deserve as glenn hoddle thinks disabled people deserve being disabled: because of something we've done in the past.

 

[London_Calling]

point taken: Will Self exaggered; it's three in ten

 

[smokedout]

the journalists, proprietors and editors are responding to public demand. whose fault is it that we have scandal sheets? someone must be buying them

apart from the owners who benefits most from scandal sheets, the people who read them or the people who feature in them

 

[London_Calling]

Your posts haven't addressed this point at all. Please, do address it, even link your posts above to it if you can. It's odd this, i suggest that Will Self is wrong and why i think that, you make some irrelevant posts then demand i tell you what i think of what Will Self said.

I'm not addressing any fucking point, I'm asking a question:

Will Self was arguing the British public effectively incited NOtW to act in the way they did by buying it in vast quantities - 4 in 10 papers sold on a Sunday. They wanted it, they got it. Was his view. What's yours?

Make that three in ten. Over to you?

 

[Pickman's model]

point taken: Will Self exaggered; it's three in ten

some sort of apology would be in order.

 

[smokedout]

you've clearly said you don't think anyone famous is entitled to any privacy, just as mcmullen said to coogan. coogan's response was that he worked hard to get where he is, and at no point has he courted the tabloids

yet here he is discussing drugs, lap dancers and shagging courtney love with piers morgan

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/comment/articles/2011-05/27/gq-comment-steve-coogan-interview-piers-morgan/tristram-shandy-a-cock-and-bull-story

 

[Geri]

Copies of tomorrow's NOTW are already selling on eBay for £5.50.

 

[butchersapron]

there's many millions who regularly pay for shit 'journalism'. a few hundred thousand paying for 'quality'. so market forces dictate shit 'journalism' thrives
qed we get what we deserve

Do you know what begging the question is gav?

People pay for a paper that has shit journalism in it. They didn't pay for shit journalism. They didn't pay for a paper that advertised it hacked milly dowlers phone. And even if they did, it doesn't follow that as a result all journalism should be shit and all the newspaper should be shit. Does it? Aside from the specious logic that what exists we deserve (do you deserve to have all your benefits cut? Does my dad? Did a million iraqis deserve to be killed - because that's what happened) i'd like you to actually try an defend your argument, not just more circular moralism and purism.

 

[Pickman's model]

Copies of tomorrow's NOTW are already selling on eBay for £5.50.

there's one born every minute.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm not addressing any fucking point, I'm asking a question:


Make that three in ten. Over to you?

You're not kidding on that first bit are you? Aside from me having answered the question already. what you're offering is pretty clear - you agree with gav and will self but won't say so.

 

[London_Calling]

there's one born every minute.

And, as usual, it's you:
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_from...w=News+of+the+world&_sacat=See-All-Categories

 

[London_Calling]

You're not kidding on that first bit are you? Aside from me having answered the question already. what you're offering is pretty clear - you agree with gav and will self but won't say so.

Do I?

And you, just to refresh our memory? What part in all this does the NotW buying public play?

 

[butchersapron]

obviously uk media are overlooking the massive demand for quality reporting and only catering for the ignorant few who actually buy the newspapers currently on sale

I salute your total and utter capitulation to the truth of the market gav. It never lies.

 

[Pickman's model]

And, as usual, it's you:
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_from...w=News+of+the+world&_sacat=See-All-Categories

let me get this straight. i am a mug because i'm not buying a copy of the news of the world to sell on ebay? i suppose you're going down the stations this evening to get a bundle to flog.

 

[London_Calling]

let me get this straight.

Classic Pickman!

You accepted people were paying £5.50 on ebay for tomorrow's NotW, and said "one was born every minute" - tbf, you had that covered for several minutes.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Copies of tomorrow's NOTW are already selling on eBay for £5.50.

not for long.... under T&Cs they have to have stock in hand.... people are a bit bored at the various groups with the advertisers/investors offices closed....

 

[Pickman's model]

Classic Pickman!

You accepted people were paying £5.50 on ebay for tomorrow's NotW, and said "one was born every minute" - tbf, you had that covered for several minutes.

geri has a history of honesty. you don't. i am therefore more inclined to trust what she says without checking every claim in her posts.

 

[London_Calling]

let me get this straight....

 

[Pickman's model]

Classic Pickman!

You accepted people were paying £5.50 on ebay for tomorrow's NotW, and said "one was born every minute" - tbf, you had that covered for several minutes.

according to this website http://collectibles.shop.ebay.com/P...+world&_catref=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282 people are charging (atm) up to about £6 for the paper. which somewhat exceeds the £5.50 geri quoted and undermines you again, you thick fuck.

 

[Pickman's model]

let me get this straight....

let me make this clear for you in words of one syllable: you're a liar and a shit one at that, you dull twat.

ok?

 

[London_Calling]

She said "they are selling", you took that as sold, now you link to 'buy it now' as if people are paying that.

let me get this straight...

 

[London_Calling]

you thick fuck.

.

 

[Pickman's model]

She said "they are selling", you took that as sold, now you link to 'buy it now' as if people are paying that.

let me get this straight...

pedant point for london_calling

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Murdoch welcomed to UK, killed, body dumped in sea

 

[London_Calling]

Only if pedantry is pointing out the difference between nonsense and accuracy.

 

[Geri]

She said "they are selling", you took that as sold, now you link to 'buy it now' as if people are paying that.

let me get this straight...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEWS-WORLD-pr...itu=UCC&otn=6&ps=63&clkid=1218905732663364311

Three have been sold.

 

[Pickman's model]

Only if pedantry is pointing out the difference between nonsense and accuracy.

you wouldn't know it. you didn't know what proportion of sunday papers sold were notw. you simply produced some nonsense you'd picked up somewhere and ran with it, like the gullible twat you are.

you accurate?

what a fucking joke

 

[agricola]

This must be up there with the most breathtakingly cynical political strategies of modern times:

Rupert Murdoch's ambition to expand his media empire still further could be killed off by MPs this week after Labour announced plans for a Commons vote to thwart his bid for BSkyB.

The move comes amid a mood of continuing public uproar over the phone-hacking scandal, which is now threatening to destabilise David Cameron's government.

The vote will present the coalition with a major test of unity as the Labour leader, Ed Miliband, seeks cross-party support for a motion in parliament which would halt progress on the takeover until the criminal investigation into the News of the World is completed.

With many Liberal Democrats and Tory MPs deeply uneasy about Murdoch gaining an even bigger slice of the UK media market – and still incensed by the behaviour of News Corp executives – Labour is optimistic it can mobilise enough support to achieve a majority.

Miliband will appear on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show on Sunday to announce his plan and to begin his push for support across all the major parties. He will lay the motion tomorrow and the debate and vote will be on Wednesday.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/09/ed-miliband-phone-hacking-bskyb-takeover

 

[London_Calling]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEWS-WORLD-pr...itu=UCC&otn=6&ps=63&clkid=1218905732663364311

Three have been sold.

That offer - unlike the others - includes postage. The others are charging £1.50 - £1.99.

But I'd agree it's above retail.