And yet, I can't help but hope it works. Miliband's given the Lib Dems a little sniff of a cause on which to base a 'principled' exit from government.
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And yet, I can't help but hope it works. Miliband's given the Lib Dems a little sniff of a cause on which to base a 'principled' exit from government.
butchersapron
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There's a lot of line crossing here - Santino is right, Miliband has just offered the lib-dems another one.
London_Calling
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Vince the Mince already said - albeit secretly taped - he wouldn't have allowed it.
It has to be a good move by Labour.
It has to be a good move by Labour.
agricola
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Maybe, that depends if Cameron is idiot enough to put a three line whip on it. If he has a brain he will give a free vote on his side, watch Labour win this motion, and then watch the tabloids crucify Miliband and Labour - for instance, there are already rumours that tomorrows Mail is going to go for Tom Baldwin.... and you would think that, given how close NI were between 1997 and 2009, they will have a lot more stuff than that to use.
gavman
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quite narrow though, just to rely on your own personal experience?
gavman
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they got douglas alexander mixed with danny alexander, hardly calling for your innuendo
London_Calling
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Most likely has to be Cameron calling the Dirty Digger round for tea and telling him it's either my Gov or your takeover - so you're on your bike.
Imo, this move by Labour looks the most likely way the takeover will fall.
gavman
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see post #3008
gavman
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that's because the line between hacking celebrities and hacking everyone else, is none existent. you don't get one without the other. no point in bleating how it's ok to hack celebs, but beyond the pale if you do it to humans; this is what you get
butchersapron
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What about the line being hacking and not hacking? Does that exist? Your whole post is based on it, so you have to say yes. And in doing so you thereby clear all the people you now claim are guilty. Well done gav. Star.
agricola
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Maybe, though IMHO all this does is make Murdoch only have one choice (in the short term, anyway) when it comes to doleing out the political support, and it looked like the takeover was being delayed anyway. This might work for Labour long-term, though its at least as likely that it will turn out badly for them (as well as result in Murdoch paying less for BSkyB, eventually - the share price is £2 higher now than it was before they announced takeover plans).
butchersapron
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London_Calling
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agricola: I suppose it's not a coalition agreement issue either, leaving room to manoeuvre.
Those public inquiries won't be completed for years. Murdoch has next to no chance, imo.
Those public inquiries won't be completed for years. Murdoch has next to no chance, imo.
butchersapron
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What time do the Sunday Front pages start appearing.... theres 3 ex-NOTW hacks allegedly sold their stories....
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London_Calling
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Looks a bit thin 
gavman
pj slumpy
yawn. the 'line' is journalism v gossip, butch.
i used to walk, with my grandad, to the corner shop in wembley to buy the notw on sunday mornings butch. my gran used to moan about the 'coloureds' moving into her road butch. she got the paper she deserved, because she paid for it every week and agreed with it's editorial line butch. she helped perpetuate it by supporting it financially butch. how is she not partly responsible for the content, style and approach of that title? butch
i used to walk, with my grandad, to the corner shop in wembley to buy the notw on sunday mornings butch. my gran used to moan about the 'coloureds' moving into her road butch. she got the paper she deserved, because she paid for it every week and agreed with it's editorial line butch. she helped perpetuate it by supporting it financially butch. how is she not partly responsible for the content, style and approach of that title? butch
agricola
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It depends what terms the inquiries operate under, the judge-led one especially. You would think though that whoever sets it up would go for the simplest option available, if for no other reason than it could potentially drag on for eternity, involve thousands of witnesses, forests of paper, and would cost an absolute fortune if they tried to do anything remotely wide-ranging and comprehensive.
London_Calling
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Yep, that's the one!
butchersapron
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You can't even follow your own logic gav. Your reply to you dismantling your own 'argument' is 'yawn'. Sleep well then.
butchersapron
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Split them into three as well.
London_Calling
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You'll notice the question mark at the end of his post.
Like me, he is asking you your view?
agricola
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Three interconnected public inquiries would probably cost five times as much as one.
butchersapron
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Not about the money as i think you must agree.
agricola
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Actually it is about the money - especially when the lawyers will be hauling money away by the barrow-load, and we will be no nearer the truth of what has gone on.
Looks a bit thin
that's not the paper itself though, just a print copy of the front page
butchersapron
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You mean the post that doesn't end with a question mark? You're on fire today.
My view? My view on what? My views about what i've been posting about have been explained and defended. Yours?
London_Calling
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Public money will come a poor second to re-election strategies.
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