Milo Yiannoupoulis banned!
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Sorry. Who are you?
We don't use big words round here because we're working class.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I'm one of the people constructing the discursive field within which you're, quite forcefully, being called a knob. You know, like a bellend.
What a crock of shit.
All of this because I have challenged you on your own highly subjective, personally motivated, non evidenced, feelings based assertion that he can't be a racist because he has sex with Black people. You have provided no evidence to support your assertion and next you will be insisting that misogynists don't and wouldn't have sex with women.
You claim to know something about the complexities of sexuality, sexual preference and how aspects of race and racism are connected to these things by have shown zero awareness or evidence of that knowledge. If you did you would not even have said such a ridiculous thing. I am not the only one to point that out to you either.
You are similar to the likes of Milo in some respects IMO...you seem to think people need permission from you to exist or have a different perspective to you. You've come at me with a pretty ridiculous air of superiority, subjective waffle, pseudo intellectual bullshit and tried to assert yourself as an authority. You are wasting your time and making yourself look very silly.
I suggested that given his sexual proclivities attempting to label him as being racist was - well - quite funny. He might be racist in another way, but where is the evidence? If he doesn't fuck European guys, or Asian guys, does that make him racist? Where is the evidence of his alleged racism?
You still appear to claim some degree of authority in regard to the complexities of race and sex. Based on what exactly? And just because you appear to have friends that support you (which is, of course, natural and understandable) it doesn't make you right.
I make no claim to superiority, I just want to understand your argument, without being rude or condescending.
Given that there is never a singular field of discourse I wish you luck.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Given that there is in this case - fuck off knobhead and bellend.
needed some italics there I feel
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Did you really imagine that your jargon, your outdated jargon, your light imputation of mastery of many disciplines (all of which seem to end in the early 90s when you left university) and all that would run here?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Sometimes you just have to hold them back comrade.
Treacle Toes
Time
You would understand my point/argument if :
1. You actually knew much about the man you are defending.
2. You actually knew much about the complexities of racism and how those things can play out in the fetishisation of sexual partners/sexual preference etc. Even a cursory investigation on your part on the above two points would give you ample to think about.
Your continued patronising pseudo intellectual waffle and now asking that I do your homework for you is tedious.
Some people have experience, knowledge/have studied things that you haven't. We all have to accept that at some point don't we?
Also, 'just because you appear to have friends that support you' ?
That is pretty desperate, you clearly don't know about my relationship/interactions with other members here. It's not about me, it's about the point I have made.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Your stats claim about 5% of the population of the planet use Twitter. Not 5% of internet users.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Milo's history implies he's racist, transphobic, islamaphobic, homophobic, anti-semitic and violently misogynist. He and his rabid band of desperately seeking approval followers then use his identity as a gay guy of jewish heritage (when it suits him) as a defence when people point out he's terrible. Witness his manager declaring him to be the 'top gay conservative voice in the world' or some such crap. If he is, then conservatism is even more fucked than it knows.
There's a question of how much he believes in this, or whether it's literally just for the attention, power and coverage. But it doesn't stop him being a despicable morality void even if he doesn't believe it. There's no mitigating his awfulness and it's immensely satisfying to watch him get even a minor aesthetic censure like this.
He can be gay and homophobic, jewish and anti-Semitic, racist and still screw black guys - and he knows that too and delights in how it provides him with cover and how people defend him on his behalf, without him having to do anything. Fucks sake.
On the bakery argument of free speech regarding twitter, it's not like he's been denied service because he went in the damn bakery. An equivalent would be if he'd gone in, started abusing other customers and brought more people in to abuse customers - then you're well within your rights to ask him to leave.
There's a question of how much he believes in this, or whether it's literally just for the attention, power and coverage. But it doesn't stop him being a despicable morality void even if he doesn't believe it. There's no mitigating his awfulness and it's immensely satisfying to watch him get even a minor aesthetic censure like this.
He can be gay and homophobic, jewish and anti-Semitic, racist and still screw black guys - and he knows that too and delights in how it provides him with cover and how people defend him on his behalf, without him having to do anything. Fucks sake.
On the bakery argument of free speech regarding twitter, it's not like he's been denied service because he went in the damn bakery. An equivalent would be if he'd gone in, started abusing other customers and brought more people in to abuse customers - then you're well within your rights to ask him to leave.
Buddy Bradley
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I refuse to read Laurie Penny for I become more stupid every time I do.
Edit: Ugh. I clicked on it?
She's part of the fucking problem.
How many max images is it? Six?
Edit: Ugh. I clicked on it?
She's part of the fucking problem.
How many max images is it? Six?
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Back in the Antebellum South, when the Missus and young'uns were safe in bed in the plantation house, Massa was known to show his sexual proclivities by going out to the shotgun shacks and fucking the slave girls; or whipping them to death.... if they had been uppity.
bimble
floofy
This is a very weird feeling but .. I quite liked that Laurie Penny thing, think she makes sense -
about how "According to the law of the wild web, the spoils go to those with fewest fucks to give.. pure antagonists unencumbered by any conviction .."
If you ignore that its her I think there's something true in there, Milo as an example of what she calls 'weaponised insincerity' , something shared by Trump but not Roosh, being a powerful force in anxious times. Or maybe I just should've had coffee before reading.
about how "According to the law of the wild web, the spoils go to those with fewest fucks to give.. pure antagonists unencumbered by any conviction .."
If you ignore that its her I think there's something true in there, Milo as an example of what she calls 'weaponised insincerity' , something shared by Trump but not Roosh, being a powerful force in anxious times. Or maybe I just should've had coffee before reading.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
We can explain things to you but we can't understand them for you
so you don't think Yiannopoulos really is a right winger? I do.This is a very weird feeling but .. I quite liked that Laurie Penny thing, think she makes sense -
about how "According to the law of the wild web, the spoils go to those with fewest fucks to give.. pure antagonists unencumbered by any conviction .."
If you ignore that its her I think there's something true in there, Milo as an example of what she calls 'weaponised insincerity' , something shared by Trump but not Roosh, being a powerful force in anxious times. Or maybe I just should've had coffee before reading.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Used to be five now unlimitedI refuse to read Laurie Penny for I become more stupid every time I do.
Edit: Ugh. I clicked on it?
She's part of the fucking problem.
How many max images is it? Six?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
When you start liking Laurie Penny, that's a sign your critical faculties have atrophiedThis is a very weird feeling but .. I quite liked that Laurie Penny thing, think she makes sense -
about how "According to the law of the wild web, the spoils go to those with fewest fucks to give.. pure antagonists unencumbered by any conviction .."
If you ignore that its her I think there's something true in there, Milo as an example of what she calls 'weaponised insincerity' , something shared by Trump but not Roosh, being a powerful force in anxious times. Or maybe I just should've had coffee before reading.
bimble
floofy
Of course. But maybe best understood as a professional provocateur rather than someone who passionately believes in anything at all, apart from you know, that Ghostbusters should've had an all male cast.
His attacks are not indiscriminate as I would've expected of someone 'unencumbered by any conviction', they are targeted.
The belief that it's just trolls in it for the 'lulz' and none of it means anything is partly how Penny found herself glamourising utter scum like 'weev'. I don't buy it.
bimble
floofy
wasn't at all suggesting that 'none of it means anything'. I've got some idea of what its like to get virulent race hate stuff on twitter and don't in any way think it can be excused by saying its ok they don't really mean it. The sincerity of people like this Milo, or of Trump, or Farage even, is probably a moot point anyway, it's the troops of enthusiastic followers who do the work.
Treacle Toes
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Treacle Toes
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...and often for no other reason than he fancied them, enjoyed the power dynamic or simply because he could.
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