I like the way (not really) Milo equates Twitter with muslim terrorists with black lives matter.
What a twat
What a twat
Milo Yiannoupoulis banned!
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Buckaroo
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He's a pound shop hybrid of Gyles Brandreth and Quentin Crisp.
That may well be true, but I would suggest such an explanation likely accounts for a very small percentage of human sexual interactions under what might be termed 'usual conditions'.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Yeah you really haven't spent much time among Milos followers in mens rights activists gamer gate and pick up artists
Secrets of the infamous Daryush Valizadeh aka RooshV aka pro-rape Roosh V
rooshv would be a friend of Milos
What the hell are you on about given your statement above.You are the one talking about preferences and how he can't be a racist because of who he fucks.That is bollocks afaiac. I think you need to think about the connections between sex and perceived power, also how historically race and racism influenced/s those dynamics and people's sexual preferences. Perhaps you can also tell me what you found funny enough to addto it as well? It isn't funny, not one fucking bit and quite frankly these little posts here and there questioning his racism are akin to support IMO.
Sexual preferences are likely to be extremely complicated, where (indeed) an individual could accurately explain or articulate the fact of their particular choices. Some people prefer not to date or have sex outside particular groups - are you seriously attempting to suggest that anyone who does not *date* outside their own particular grouping is racist? Milo clearly does like to roam beyond his own grouping, so perhaps you could contact Milo and ask him to explain his stated attraction to black men? You are absolutely right that there are histories involving power and race, but those histories are not fixed and ahistorical, they are particular and temporal constructions.
I don't believe he is racist, far from it. He may be ignorant, and deliberately seeking to provoke in order to maintain his 'brand' and associated profile, but that is to be expected given the media he chooses to engage through. Calling him racist might serve as an easy label but it serves to obscure and render illegitimate points of potential debate and interest, effectively seeking to the narrowing of public and private discourse. Moreover, such use of the term ultimately devalues the word itself.
This is especially true of the latter part of your post, where it appears you attempt to suggest I might be supportive of racism.
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Roosh V/ Nero / Thunderf00t / Sargon of Akkad / Bearing
All part of new-Right. All disgraceful. All have massive online presence.
Today James O'Brien off LBC said he had no idea what a Nero was. I told him he should be ashamed. Youtube and the broader internet is where the next generation is getting it's politics off (same with me... I joined here when I was 19 years old, and I'm 33 now. Urban75 - I AM YOUR PET PROJECT). There are more like me. The left need to be more vociferous in their online presence.
Yes. It fucking is James.
All part of new-Right. All disgraceful. All have massive online presence.
Today James O'Brien off LBC said he had no idea what a Nero was. I told him he should be ashamed. Youtube and the broader internet is where the next generation is getting it's politics off (same with me... I joined here when I was 19 years old, and I'm 33 now. Urban75 - I AM YOUR PET PROJECT). There are more like me. The left need to be more vociferous in their online presence.
Yes. It fucking is James.
FridgeMagnet
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Personally I've had enough of excusing people who say and do massively racist things on the basis of "it's their shtick they don't really mean it". Only racists organise and promote huge racist trolling campaigns and make racist posts. It doesn't mean that it's their primary focus in life; their level of caring about racial equality and avoiding prejudice (let alone not supporting prejudice) is still clearly so low that their actions fall into the category of "racist".
See also all the channers and Dramatica types etc who post racist memes all the time "but it's all a joke".
See also all the channers and Dramatica types etc who post racist memes all the time "but it's all a joke".
i can't stand james o'brien
what's the new-right? aren't that lot just your general 'libertarian' types - they've been around for ages?
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Yeah, but the mainstream right were always seen as socially conservative. New right are a weird mix of "Gay is fine", "gender is real and gender roles are a biological FACT", "racial behavioural tenancies are grounded in DAN", "God isn't important", "science and logic FTW".
Basically mysogonistic, biological deterministic, race realists, yet somehow fine with gay, and willing to argue stuff on non-religious grounds as long as that religion isn't isalm. New right is weird-ass.
sounds like libertarians to me
I bet the Mises Institute or whatever it's called has links with that stuff
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I guess it's new cos it broke into the mainstream (I take it we're using the American usage of "libertarian" here.
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About fucking time to be honest. Asking people to act cordially, and to expect "followers" to not be abusive shitheads is not censorship. YouTube should be next.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
A cunt . If this means a teensy bit less of him good .
yeah
I suppose a lot of this came to prominence around Ron Paul's president campaign in 2008?
I do agree the left ought to try and do better on the internet, but it's easier said than done isn't it.
Treacle Toes
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No I am not suggesting that. I am suggesting the opposite of that is possible. Couple this with his blatant misogyny and the absolutely racist abuse of Black women I think I will defer to my own perception of him. That you can't see that is your own problem and tells me a lot about your inability to understand the complexities of racism.
It's not an easy label. I call very few people racist actually. Your excuses for him and dismissing his attitudes as merely 'ignorant' and just for the LULZ/just to provoke are in my opinion, disingenuous. You find him interesting, bully for you. Given that Milo himself is the one actively working to impact public and private discourse though his use of social media, building a cult following and publishing of articles etc I reckon your accusations of me here are misplaced.
Ah, what a gem this is. Let's talk about devaluing, let's talk about just how cheap this/your shot with this crap comment actually is.
It's nothing new about the approach, classic attempt to undermine intelligence, experience and perception. I will file this under other gems like 'you are being too sensitive' , 'don't take it all so seriously' , 'you bring it on yourself you know' , 'you are reading too much into things', 'are you sure' don't you think that is paranoid'.
In short, and in case you are in any doubt. FUCK YOU. I don't need/want your permission or opinion to call racism out where and when I encounter it. Your inability to recognise it is your problem.
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There are more than just those named above. Many many more. They are, it seems, ubiquitous. As someone who's spoken with many people that think like this on Google+ let me tell you: it's fucking tiring. They are uncharitable, disingenuous, intellectually dishonest, highly biased and utterly convinced that 'social justice warriors' are out to ruin the world. This people are pernicious and poison. Milo is their ringleader. This action was necessary, but it won't stop them. It will galvanise them and feed into their persecution complex, further proof that what theycall the regressive left is both ascendant and oppressive. I wish they would all fuck off, but they won't. They grow in number. There's tons of channels, filled with these idiots spouting their hatred of women, black people, trans people, gay people and so on.
Rutita, my reply was not designed to undermine your intelligence, experience or perception, it was put forward as part of the dialogue developed from my original comment. However there is clearly a marked subjectivity to your framing and interpretation of what I wrote, suggesting that your strength of feeling is marked by personal experience.
There are very important questions relating to the issues of subjectivity, feelings, language and the construction of truth (social and otherwise) and discursive framings, but this clearly isn't the best place to pursue them.
don't be a nob
nino_savatte
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Weasel words.
Treacle Toes
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'Don't be so sensitive' dressed up in pseudo academic analysis/language. Pathetic. 'If only you weren't so emotional about this, there could be a important discussion'.
Cutting through the waffle, the point that you are avoiding is that I think you can have sex with Black people and still be a racist.
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8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
I think you're exaggerating Milo's popularity in the real world. 400k twitter followers even if they are rancid, hateful, spiteful, and vicious, isn't that much. They like 9/11 truther in that regard on the internet they're much more visiblel than reality. Thats not to dilute the damage they do, and doesn't disregard the hate they spew. But frankly I've had larger bowel movements than the mens rights movements.
seventh bullet
sovietwave
Are you one of these pseudo-intellectuals I've heard about?
It astonishes me that people still think that Twitter has any impact or resonance whatsoever. What has actually changed -- including views, attitudes or beliefs -- as a result of all these angry tweets?
This page has some interesting stats about Twitter, including that 310 million people actually use the thing, of which 100 million can be viewed as "active daily users", and only 34% of those active users log onto it more than once a day, which I guess gets you to about 34 million who show more than a passing interest. For the record, that's about 0.5% of the population of this planet.
The media are, of course, included in that 0.5%, and so they are part of the bubble that think it is important. Because Twitter feels really, really important to the people that use Twitter. To everybody else, though (which may be less than 99.5% but is certainly more than 90% even if we somehow believe that all the 500m monthly visitors to the site that never actually log on are also included as interested parties), it is something that they completely and utterly ignore.
This page has some interesting stats about Twitter, including that 310 million people actually use the thing, of which 100 million can be viewed as "active daily users", and only 34% of those active users log onto it more than once a day, which I guess gets you to about 34 million who show more than a passing interest. For the record, that's about 0.5% of the population of this planet.
The media are, of course, included in that 0.5%, and so they are part of the bubble that think it is important. Because Twitter feels really, really important to the people that use Twitter. To everybody else, though (which may be less than 99.5% but is certainly more than 90% even if we somehow believe that all the 500m monthly visitors to the site that never actually log on are also included as interested parties), it is something that they completely and utterly ignore.
NoBystander
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Racism and homophobia are still a big part of it. Milo and Roosh V tried to hold the big boys coats for them and got a pasting.
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NoBystander
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Silencing people is not OK.
A lot of people promote their work on social media. Women and black people are already relatively invisible without having to waste hours wading through abuse just to do their job.
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